I guarantee you that you can’t win this argument

juuulya May 24, 2020 7:47 pm

I’m tired of commenting on everyone else posts, so I’ll make my own. I’ll go through ever point I’ve seen, and explain why it’s incorrect. Match your point to mine to see an explanation.

“They’ve played multiple times before and did worse”
Yes, but consent does not carry. Especially in bdsm. Just because someone agreed once before, does not give their partner the right to their body indefinitely. In real bdsm, each play is discussed beforehand and is approved on by both parties. Clearly this didn’t happen, because chanwoo was shocked at md’s instructions.

“It’s bdsm they can be hit”
No. Bdsm is consensual, and chanwoo did not and can not consent.

“Why can’t he consent?”
He is shown several times to be mentally and emotionally incapable. Md choked him to see if he was capable of saying the safeword. It was confirmed that he couldn’t when he did not say it. Chanwoo is shown with a bruised face and repeatedly brushes off concern with “I’m fine”.

“He knows how md feels but he goes to the other guy anyways”
A person is never, ever obligated to return someone’s unrequited feelings. After md confessed, chanwoo politely refused And wished to keep a casual bdsm relationship. Because they stated beforehand that they want their bdsm and romantic lives separate, md’s feelings do not belong in their plays.

“How is he being manipulated? This is unrelated to their plays”
Yes, personal feelings should be left out of bdsm. MD knows that, but he puts them there anyways. Md also knows that chanwoo values him as a bdsm partner and as a friend, so when chanwoo attempted to introduce md to his boyfriend and he clearly was upset, no plays should’ve been initiated until md could cool down his feelings. Chanwoo was given an ultimatum, in that he either participate in the play or never communicate with md again. He fears losing md, so he agrees despite clearly not wanting to. This is coercion, and a coerced person cannot consent.

“Md is upset because chanwoo hurt his feelings so that’s why he hit him like that”
Again, unrequited feelings are never obligated to be returned, and personal feelings have no place in a casual bdsm relationship. Yes this hurt his feelings, but hurt feelings are never an excuse to coerce or hurt another person.

“He deserves it”
No one deserves abuse. Ever.

“How is it abuse”
It is abuse because he cannot consent. No consent = abuse/rape.

“I’ve been in a bdsm relationship that had plays exactly like this and I’m fine”
I’m sorry you’ve been abused before, but you should not use it as leverage to excuse other abuse.

“It’s just fiction why are you mad”
I, and many others, are mad because this abuse is being disguised as bdsm. This is harmful to the bdsm community, because it puts us in a bad light, and relates us to abusers. We are only attempting to keep our community’s image clear.

Responses
    juuulya May 30, 2020 2:59 pm
    Oh my god I couldn't have explained this any better. Every time I read someone trying to argue that this shit was totally acceptable because they're into BDSM I actually wanted to cry. BDSM is not abusive NyaruLee

    Yea it really sucks that we don’t get an accurate series smh

    RecessiveGene May 30, 2020 3:30 pm
    101 Dalmatians juuulya

    101 salty DM stans HAHAHAH

    SomethingStupid May 30, 2020 3:46 pm

    Oml thank you so so so so so much for this comment I genuinely can't express how grateful I am, you summed everything up perfectly. If only Chanwoo had a respectful and understanding BDSM partner like you wtf

    jumin han is gay May 30, 2020 3:56 pm
    101 salty DM stans HAHAHAH RecessiveGene

    i bet its that one person that called us a trolls and her lil friend but i jst realize shes always talking about us "trolls" she addicted to us

    juuulya May 30, 2020 4:43 pm
    101 salty DM stans HAHAHAH RecessiveGene

    Nah bro more like one or two salty md stans who have a lot of time on their hands to make a fuck ton of fake accounts lmaoooo

    juuulya May 30, 2020 5:00 pm

    Someone seriously just told me a “your mom” joke

    juuulya May 30, 2020 6:08 pm

    Why’re there so many children on this site

    juuulya May 30, 2020 6:45 pm

    Parental blocks engage

    juuulya May 30, 2020 7:10 pm

    8 pages and still not even a single troll

    juuulya June 4, 2020 1:58 am

    Boop

    RecessiveGene June 4, 2020 6:39 pm

    yasss

    juuulya June 4, 2020 8:10 pm

    We should post some copypastas

    hamster_12 June 5, 2020 5:37 pm

    Someone really out there spamming the likes

    hamster_12 June 5, 2020 5:38 pm
    Someone really out there spamming the likes hamster_12

    *dislikes

    juuulya June 5, 2020 6:12 pm
    Someone really out there spamming the likes hamster_12

    You can only like/dislike once on a post, so

    RecessiveGene June 5, 2020 7:09 pm

    I still stand for this post. (spoiler) MD just wanted to get a "reaction" from Chanwoo... I just wanted to see if there are mistakes from their translation. but no...

    juuulya June 5, 2020 10:03 pm

    Lag again...

    SomethingStupid June 6, 2020 9:05 pm

    Hoooooooly shit y'all it ended and why am I surprised they victim blamed I should really know better

    KepKepQueen April 10, 2021 10:21 am

    Periodt.

    recessivegene April 11, 2021 12:55 pm
    Hoooooooly shit y'all it ended and why am I surprised they victim blamed I should really know better SomethingStupid

    well