I guarantee you that you can’t win this argument

juuulya May 24, 2020 7:47 pm

I’m tired of commenting on everyone else posts, so I’ll make my own. I’ll go through ever point I’ve seen, and explain why it’s incorrect. Match your point to mine to see an explanation.

“They’ve played multiple times before and did worse”
Yes, but consent does not carry. Especially in bdsm. Just because someone agreed once before, does not give their partner the right to their body indefinitely. In real bdsm, each play is discussed beforehand and is approved on by both parties. Clearly this didn’t happen, because chanwoo was shocked at md’s instructions.

“It’s bdsm they can be hit”
No. Bdsm is consensual, and chanwoo did not and can not consent.

“Why can’t he consent?”
He is shown several times to be mentally and emotionally incapable. Md choked him to see if he was capable of saying the safeword. It was confirmed that he couldn’t when he did not say it. Chanwoo is shown with a bruised face and repeatedly brushes off concern with “I’m fine”.

“He knows how md feels but he goes to the other guy anyways”
A person is never, ever obligated to return someone’s unrequited feelings. After md confessed, chanwoo politely refused And wished to keep a casual bdsm relationship. Because they stated beforehand that they want their bdsm and romantic lives separate, md’s feelings do not belong in their plays.

“How is he being manipulated? This is unrelated to their plays”
Yes, personal feelings should be left out of bdsm. MD knows that, but he puts them there anyways. Md also knows that chanwoo values him as a bdsm partner and as a friend, so when chanwoo attempted to introduce md to his boyfriend and he clearly was upset, no plays should’ve been initiated until md could cool down his feelings. Chanwoo was given an ultimatum, in that he either participate in the play or never communicate with md again. He fears losing md, so he agrees despite clearly not wanting to. This is coercion, and a coerced person cannot consent.

“Md is upset because chanwoo hurt his feelings so that’s why he hit him like that”
Again, unrequited feelings are never obligated to be returned, and personal feelings have no place in a casual bdsm relationship. Yes this hurt his feelings, but hurt feelings are never an excuse to coerce or hurt another person.

“He deserves it”
No one deserves abuse. Ever.

“How is it abuse”
It is abuse because he cannot consent. No consent = abuse/rape.

“I’ve been in a bdsm relationship that had plays exactly like this and I’m fine”
I’m sorry you’ve been abused before, but you should not use it as leverage to excuse other abuse.

“It’s just fiction why are you mad”
I, and many others, are mad because this abuse is being disguised as bdsm. This is harmful to the bdsm community, because it puts us in a bad light, and relates us to abusers. We are only attempting to keep our community’s image clear.

Responses
    juuulya May 28, 2020 9:23 pm

    81 dislikes? Bruh u can keep wasting your time making fake accounts, nobody cares lmaoooooo we still have 100 actual likes, so... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    jumin han is gay May 28, 2020 10:21 pm
    81 dislikes? Bruh u can keep wasting your time making fake accounts, nobody cares lmaoooooo we still have 100 actual likes, so... ¯_(ツ)_/¯ juuulya

    i like how they cant comment their opinion

    juuulya May 28, 2020 10:53 pm
    i like how they cant comment their opinion jumin han is gay

    Bc they’re a coward and they know they’re wrong lol

    juuulya May 29, 2020 1:09 am

    92! How do u have this much time on your ha- oh. Guess we all bored here huh

    juuulya May 29, 2020 5:38 am

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    RecessiveGene May 29, 2020 9:13 am

    someone is really bored disliking this post lol. up we goooo

    juuulya May 29, 2020 3:24 pm

    97 and still no posts. I wonder if it’s someone who got offended by my domestic abuse quotes lmaoooo

    YaoiLover24 May 29, 2020 4:10 pm
    97 and still no posts. I wonder if it’s someone who got offended by my domestic abuse quotes lmaoooo juuulya

    The raws for the next chapter are out! I'm not gonna say much as I don't want to spoil anyone.

    Also I think it's better to read it in English before saying much. Excited to hear your thoughts after the translation!

    juuulya May 29, 2020 5:14 pm

    Woohoo 98 y’all!!! And the fuckin coward still hasn’t shown themselves

    juuulya May 29, 2020 5:16 pm
    The raws for the next chapter are out! I'm not gonna say much as I don't want to spoil anyone. Also I think it's better to read it in English before saying much. Excited to hear your thoughts after the translat... YaoiLover24

    I bought almost every chapter of the main story, but like hell im gonna support this bs. Maybe if the author somehow writes themselves out of this, I’ll go buy them, but for now, nah

    juuulya May 29, 2020 8:33 pm

    We’re almost hitting 100 dislikes! Come on y’all let’s keep calling them out, maybe we can get to 125

    YaoiLover24 May 29, 2020 8:43 pm
    I bought almost every chapter of the main story, but like hell im gonna support this bs. Maybe if the author somehow writes themselves out of this, I’ll go buy them, but for now, nah juuulya

    They are available for free on toonkor but I understand. I can't wait for your commentary!

    juuulya May 29, 2020 8:48 pm
    They are available for free on toonkor but I understand. I can't wait for your commentary! YaoiLover24

    I just found it, not being able to read the dialog sucks tho.

    On a different note damn shitty boyfriend got long dick style

    juuulya May 29, 2020 8:54 pm
    They are available for free on toonkor but I understand. I can't wait for your commentary! YaoiLover24

    I do love that MD in korean is spelled em di nim

    juuulya May 29, 2020 8:55 pm
    They are available for free on toonkor but I understand. I can't wait for your commentary! YaoiLover24

    The safeword is “banirra”? Vanilla? Idk why I’m tryna read the korean lmao

    YaoiLover24 May 29, 2020 10:41 pm
    I just found it, not being able to read the dialog sucks tho. On a different note damn shitty boyfriend got long dick style juuulya

    I know right? I can get the general feel of the chapter but I'll wait for the translation before jumping to conclusions. Still don't approve of MD though!

    NyaruLee May 30, 2020 12:20 am

    Thank you SO MUCH

    NyaruLee May 30, 2020 12:27 am

    Oh my god I couldn't have explained this any better. Every time I read someone trying to argue that this shit was totally acceptable because they're into BDSM I actually wanted to cry. BDSM is not abusive

    juuulya May 30, 2020 1:40 am

    101 babeyyyyyyyy

    juuulya May 30, 2020 10:01 am

    101 Dalmatians