I guarantee you that you can’t win this argument

juuulya May 24, 2020 7:47 pm

I’m tired of commenting on everyone else posts, so I’ll make my own. I’ll go through ever point I’ve seen, and explain why it’s incorrect. Match your point to mine to see an explanation.

“They’ve played multiple times before and did worse”
Yes, but consent does not carry. Especially in bdsm. Just because someone agreed once before, does not give their partner the right to their body indefinitely. In real bdsm, each play is discussed beforehand and is approved on by both parties. Clearly this didn’t happen, because chanwoo was shocked at md’s instructions.

“It’s bdsm they can be hit”
No. Bdsm is consensual, and chanwoo did not and can not consent.

“Why can’t he consent?”
He is shown several times to be mentally and emotionally incapable. Md choked him to see if he was capable of saying the safeword. It was confirmed that he couldn’t when he did not say it. Chanwoo is shown with a bruised face and repeatedly brushes off concern with “I’m fine”.

“He knows how md feels but he goes to the other guy anyways”
A person is never, ever obligated to return someone’s unrequited feelings. After md confessed, chanwoo politely refused And wished to keep a casual bdsm relationship. Because they stated beforehand that they want their bdsm and romantic lives separate, md’s feelings do not belong in their plays.

“How is he being manipulated? This is unrelated to their plays”
Yes, personal feelings should be left out of bdsm. MD knows that, but he puts them there anyways. Md also knows that chanwoo values him as a bdsm partner and as a friend, so when chanwoo attempted to introduce md to his boyfriend and he clearly was upset, no plays should’ve been initiated until md could cool down his feelings. Chanwoo was given an ultimatum, in that he either participate in the play or never communicate with md again. He fears losing md, so he agrees despite clearly not wanting to. This is coercion, and a coerced person cannot consent.

“Md is upset because chanwoo hurt his feelings so that’s why he hit him like that”
Again, unrequited feelings are never obligated to be returned, and personal feelings have no place in a casual bdsm relationship. Yes this hurt his feelings, but hurt feelings are never an excuse to coerce or hurt another person.

“He deserves it”
No one deserves abuse. Ever.

“How is it abuse”
It is abuse because he cannot consent. No consent = abuse/rape.

“I’ve been in a bdsm relationship that had plays exactly like this and I’m fine”
I’m sorry you’ve been abused before, but you should not use it as leverage to excuse other abuse.

“It’s just fiction why are you mad”
I, and many others, are mad because this abuse is being disguised as bdsm. This is harmful to the bdsm community, because it puts us in a bad light, and relates us to abusers. We are only attempting to keep our community’s image clear.

Responses
    juuulya May 27, 2020 1:47 am

    Still not going through

    juuulya May 27, 2020 2:36 am

    FINALLY

    RecessiveGene May 27, 2020 3:17 am

    Bring this to topppppp

    YaoiLover24 May 27, 2020 6:51 am
    FINALLY juuulya

    I was getting notifications but 0 posts. You made it, congrats!

    juuulya May 27, 2020 10:30 am

    I wonder if there’s a page limit

    YaoiLover24 May 27, 2020 11:29 am
    This reply will be showed after approved! blue

    Let's find out hahaha

    juuulya May 27, 2020 8:18 pm

    I told my friend who’s an e-dominitrix about this chapter, and she basically confirmed everything I posted. So anyone claiming to have had a play like this should never speak to that “dom” again lol

    juuulya May 28, 2020 12:17 am

    Wonder where the 25 extra dislikes came from... someone got the crew lmao

    juuulya May 28, 2020 12:20 am

    36 dislikes and not ONE of y’all cowards have tried to make your point here. Kinda makes ya think that there isn’t a point to make, huh?
    Until someone does, imma just assume 36 abuse excusers seen my post and didn’t like being called out lmao

    RecessiveGene May 28, 2020 1:13 am

    HAHAHAHA SOMEONE MADE A BUNCH OF ACCOUNTS. I AM TELLING YOU. someone is fucking salty than MD himself

    juuulya May 28, 2020 1:36 am
    HAHAHAHA SOMEONE MADE A BUNCH OF ACCOUNTS. I AM TELLING YOU. someone is fucking salty than MD himself RecessiveGene

    Fr lmaooo the truth really fuckin hurts

    juuulya May 28, 2020 10:48 am

    ~you raise me uuuuuup~

    RecessiveGene May 28, 2020 10:52 am

    Up

    YaoiLover24 May 28, 2020 3:42 pm
    36 dislikes and not ONE of y’all cowards have tried to make your point here. Kinda makes ya think that there isn’t a point to make, huh? Until someone does, imma just assume 36 abuse excusers seen my post a... juuulya

    YaoiLover24 May 28, 2020 3:42 pm
    HAHAHAHA SOMEONE MADE A BUNCH OF ACCOUNTS. I AM TELLING YOU. someone is fucking salty than MD himself RecessiveGene

    Hahahha so true

    juuulya May 28, 2020 3:45 pm

    63 dislikes and still not ONE challenger. Fucking cowards, y’all are pathetic... or should I just say you are pathetic since it’s one person making multiple accounts?

    RecessiveGene May 28, 2020 5:47 pm

    jumin han is gay May 28, 2020 6:50 pm
    63 dislikes and still not ONE challenger. Fucking cowards, y’all are pathetic... or should I just say you are pathetic since it’s one person making multiple accounts? juuulya

    not tryna be rude but those are the same people that wont say it to our faces or even comment about it, like its okay if dont agree, but you will respect our opinions and not bringing up any names but there this one bitch i wanna smack so much like, then they have the nerve to make me not reply to there coment after they called me dumb, some of them are big pussies, like wtf stay on hush mode bbyy girl

    jumin han is gay May 28, 2020 6:51 pm
    I told my friend who’s an e-dominitrix about this chapter, and she basically confirmed everything I posted. So anyone claiming to have had a play like this should never speak to that “dom” again lol juuulya

    they always put MD as a "dom" as an excuse like wtf, also they needa stop calling us a troll when they are XOXO

    jumin han is gay May 28, 2020 6:54 pm

    new facts of the day "Abuse damages your self-esteem."