MD’s actions will never be justified just because he was upset. are they saying that MD is spiteful and would to this for revenge!?lol. MD’s feelings matter because he is such a hot stud. if this happened in a trailer and md is an ugly bastard... MD’s feelings wouldn’t matter lol
me thinks that author san would pull the “Im sorry... I am asshole, but I love you! so pls forgive me”. card
Of course it is. Men can experience abuse as well. Some men are not as strong physically or emotionally so they can't protect themselves. Also drugs can get involved.
But women have it worse for sure.
Same (︶︿︶)＝凸
I’m having such bad connection and lag issues (〜￣△￣)〜 like I’m getting notifications that posts are being made, but they won’t load when I try and look at them
bro same
exactly, he has no right to do whats he's doing and people saying MD is wise? literally how tho, he might end up making Chanwoo endangered if he keeps shit up and hurting him physicaaly even for the play or not, and i will never understand why people are laughing when he got humiliated and smacked, and if the author do pull that card im not saying she shouldnt but its always the same boring story " oh i forgive you" type shit
Same! It's so annoying. It might just be a mangago thing if both of us have similar issues.
same one fact about domestic abuse is "A woman is assaulted or beaten every nine seconds." i pray for those women, god bless them please do well
Exactly. We are bored of that already. We want stupid people to take responsibility for their actions even in FiCtIOn!! I don't want to gloss over the abuse I want it acknowledged and dealt with ASAP!
BUT I know that's not happening. Even the og couple had issues with rape etc. So sad, I love the ending and the art but why use rape whyyyyy
So freaking sad. I wish I could protect everyone so no one would get hurt anymore. Any form of abuse is not tolerated in my books!
┗( T﹏T )┛
preachhhhhhhhh
samee
Testing to see if the connection issue cleared up
Remember y’all, if you referred them here and they still are going on, ignore them after. They’re trolling and know that they’re wrong but won’t admit it. Not worth our time, when we can help people who actually don’t know what’s wrong and are misunderstanding
Connection issue test
Smfh this lag tho
My stuff is STILL not loading smh
~All I want for christmaaaaas~ is the fucking posts to load
~When oh when~ will my fucking comments load
I’m tired of commenting on everyone else posts, so I’ll make my own. I’ll go through ever point I’ve seen, and explain why it’s incorrect. Match your point to mine to see an explanation.
“They’ve played multiple times before and did worse”
Yes, but consent does not carry. Especially in bdsm. Just because someone agreed once before, does not give their partner the right to their body indefinitely. In real bdsm, each play is discussed beforehand and is approved on by both parties. Clearly this didn’t happen, because chanwoo was shocked at md’s instructions.
“It’s bdsm they can be hit”
No. Bdsm is consensual, and chanwoo did not and can not consent.
“Why can’t he consent?”
He is shown several times to be mentally and emotionally incapable. Md choked him to see if he was capable of saying the safeword. It was confirmed that he couldn’t when he did not say it. Chanwoo is shown with a bruised face and repeatedly brushes off concern with “I’m fine”.
“He knows how md feels but he goes to the other guy anyways”
A person is never, ever obligated to return someone’s unrequited feelings. After md confessed, chanwoo politely refused And wished to keep a casual bdsm relationship. Because they stated beforehand that they want their bdsm and romantic lives separate, md’s feelings do not belong in their plays.
“How is he being manipulated? This is unrelated to their plays”
Yes, personal feelings should be left out of bdsm. MD knows that, but he puts them there anyways. Md also knows that chanwoo values him as a bdsm partner and as a friend, so when chanwoo attempted to introduce md to his boyfriend and he clearly was upset, no plays should’ve been initiated until md could cool down his feelings. Chanwoo was given an ultimatum, in that he either participate in the play or never communicate with md again. He fears losing md, so he agrees despite clearly not wanting to. This is coercion, and a coerced person cannot consent.
“Md is upset because chanwoo hurt his feelings so that’s why he hit him like that”
Again, unrequited feelings are never obligated to be returned, and personal feelings have no place in a casual bdsm relationship. Yes this hurt his feelings, but hurt feelings are never an excuse to coerce or hurt another person.
“He deserves it”
No one deserves abuse. Ever.
“How is it abuse”
It is abuse because he cannot consent. No consent = abuse/rape.
“I’ve been in a bdsm relationship that had plays exactly like this and I’m fine”
I’m sorry you’ve been abused before, but you should not use it as leverage to excuse other abuse.
“It’s just fiction why are you mad”
I, and many others, are mad because this abuse is being disguised as bdsm. This is harmful to the bdsm community, because it puts us in a bad light, and relates us to abusers. We are only attempting to keep our community’s image clear.