and people are getting BDSM and unsafe BDSM mixed u, and MD literal saw Chanwoo get Humiliated and still smacked him, and if i was being real in my opinion MD kinda acts like CHanwoo old exes MD knows Chanwoo wont say the safe word, and some people say hes doing it until CHanwoo says it ? so how about if CHanwoo never says it, he can get really hurt.. and i think Chanwoo gonna break down at some point, and we dont even know half the backstory yet and some people already assuming
I completely agree with you.
Of course it's difficult for abuse victims to think straight and act properly, they were abused that's the whole point - their way of viewing things is different due to the trauma and manipulation they've experienced. No one deserves to be treated like this!
I'm sorry this happened to you, I hope you were able to live past it and get better. Sending you lots of love and happy vibes (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Chanwoo specifically does not know his worth and that's why he cannot refuse things easily. He believes that's what he is worth. All he needs is patience, kindness and love and he'll find his way again. It's really disgusting of MD to take advantage of his past and weaknesses. I don't know why people can't see that.
MD has made me feel uncomfortable for a while now, he seems too emotionally unstable and immature to participate in BDSM. We can see this behaviour displayed in previous chapters. He treats his subs like trash - kicking them out right after a session or completely ridiculating them. That's not how BDSM works. Such acts need to be agreed upon before the actual play takes place in order for both parties to consent.
Agreed! Why does MD feel the urge to push the one he supposedly loves to his limits? Without his consent? He knows his struggles and I'm sure he feels/sees how uncomfortable he is. He literally just got his heart broken in front of you, who acts like that? And that disgusting smirk, his intentions are clear as day. Gross!
He is in a way blackmailing him cause it's either you stay or I leave you for another sub. It's just all so wrong.
ONGGG BRO
I want to hug you so much, this is the best comment so farrrrr!
ur making me cry, honestly im so happy people brung this up because when i share my comments about this people always going agaisnt me and saying thats how bdsm work but im like theres a line between abuse and bdsm . And im so glad you said this im getting emotional ahhhh
Now that people have mentioned it, I will reread chapter 37. this shit is getting intense, to OP, I wish you could repost this every now and then?
Yeah, as long as we keep commenting it’ll go to the top of the topic board
Challenge accepted (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
You’re welcome, friends! Abuse is such a sensitive topic, and a lot of people walk over it like it’s nothing. You, and everyone else, deserve to be treated well. Nobody deserves to be abused. Ever. Under any circumstances.
I reread it. It was so bad I actually had forgotten it. Again we see early on that MD is emotionally driven and brings his frustrations into their sessions which is wrong and uncalled for.
This couple had so much potential, I'm disappointed!
were you the one who got blocked by people who were saying that MD was right by giving Chanwoo a lesson and you reply them with abusive quotes like “babe, I hit you because you know I love you right?” hahahaha that shit is funny
*thats so raven voice* Yep that’s me!
They just want to use bdsm as an excuse to abuse their partners. But NO ONE wants to be called out on supporting abuse. They’ll support abusive “bdsm”, but never domestic abuse oh no. “Im not a domestic abuser, I just like to beat and humiliate my non consensual partner” smfh
Thank you, and yeah its been hard but people like youguys that uderstands makes me happy and its the past now> yall are really sweet
i literaaly love you even tho ion know you, your a great person
I’ll admit, I also forgot about how problematic their start was until recently. I’ll even admit that I was willing to let that go as a simple mistake. But mistakes aren’t made several times over with escalating intensity...
facts and people are saying that MD is tryna make Chanwoo say the safe words .. but what if he never does ? are they still gonna say that he doing that to make him say it? its a better idea to talk things out or MD get therapy for Chanwoo, MD is doing it the unsafe way, and MD needs to show Chanwoo that he could trust hi in a better way
I'm happy to hear that, stay strong (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Oh stop ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ thank you.
I’m actually a criminology grad specializing in sex crimes, which is where my passion comes from, I guess haha well, and I’m a fan of bdsm. As fans, we shouldn’t tolerate abuse being called bdsm. People are like, “it’s fiction uwu” acting like this isn’t the most popular series on this website with, like, the 2nd highest amount of views. If anything, this is a great place to start objecting to it. The more people see this, the more misunderstandings will be cleared
Exactly. I'm not sure why we all thought he was an experienced compassionate dom. We were blinded by the thrill of smut. Shame on us (￣∇￣")
I’m tired of commenting on everyone else posts, so I’ll make my own. I’ll go through ever point I’ve seen, and explain why it’s incorrect. Match your point to mine to see an explanation.
“They’ve played multiple times before and did worse”
Yes, but consent does not carry. Especially in bdsm. Just because someone agreed once before, does not give their partner the right to their body indefinitely. In real bdsm, each play is discussed beforehand and is approved on by both parties. Clearly this didn’t happen, because chanwoo was shocked at md’s instructions.
“It’s bdsm they can be hit”
No. Bdsm is consensual, and chanwoo did not and can not consent.
“Why can’t he consent?”
He is shown several times to be mentally and emotionally incapable. Md choked him to see if he was capable of saying the safeword. It was confirmed that he couldn’t when he did not say it. Chanwoo is shown with a bruised face and repeatedly brushes off concern with “I’m fine”.
“He knows how md feels but he goes to the other guy anyways”
A person is never, ever obligated to return someone’s unrequited feelings. After md confessed, chanwoo politely refused And wished to keep a casual bdsm relationship. Because they stated beforehand that they want their bdsm and romantic lives separate, md’s feelings do not belong in their plays.
“How is he being manipulated? This is unrelated to their plays”
Yes, personal feelings should be left out of bdsm. MD knows that, but he puts them there anyways. Md also knows that chanwoo values him as a bdsm partner and as a friend, so when chanwoo attempted to introduce md to his boyfriend and he clearly was upset, no plays should’ve been initiated until md could cool down his feelings. Chanwoo was given an ultimatum, in that he either participate in the play or never communicate with md again. He fears losing md, so he agrees despite clearly not wanting to. This is coercion, and a coerced person cannot consent.
“Md is upset because chanwoo hurt his feelings so that’s why he hit him like that”
Again, unrequited feelings are never obligated to be returned, and personal feelings have no place in a casual bdsm relationship. Yes this hurt his feelings, but hurt feelings are never an excuse to coerce or hurt another person.
“He deserves it”
No one deserves abuse. Ever.
“How is it abuse”
It is abuse because he cannot consent. No consent = abuse/rape.
“I’ve been in a bdsm relationship that had plays exactly like this and I’m fine”
I’m sorry you’ve been abused before, but you should not use it as leverage to excuse other abuse.
“It’s just fiction why are you mad”
I, and many others, are mad because this abuse is being disguised as bdsm. This is harmful to the bdsm community, because it puts us in a bad light, and relates us to abusers. We are only attempting to keep our community’s image clear.