MD defenders r tone deaf

fllmsy May 24, 2020 6:37 am

Chanwoo being supposedly 'selfish' does not excuse MD's actions. Like ok, lets say Chanwoo was 'selfish' for wanting to maintain a relationship partner and the BDSM relationship with MD. Yeah, they can be hurtful, since MD has feelings for Chanwoo. But logically, does that warrant manipulation and borderline abuse? No. Two wrongs don't make a right. Yes, Chanwoo could have made better choices but the thing IS, he has been in abusive relationships in the past so there are clear issues with boundaries. MD is older than Chanwoo, he's also more aware of boundaries (having been doing all this for so long). MD is able to be more mature, yet he decides to be petty and corner Chanwoo, fully knowing it is difficult for Chanwoo to say 'no'. This is why it's problematic, and it's not about the slap, the slap just escalates this situation further. So, fuck MD.

Responses
    Nova May 24, 2020 5:11 am

    Preach

    crack dad May 24, 2020 5:38 am

    EXACTLYYYY the people shitting on chanwoo are weird as fuck

    crack dad May 24, 2020 5:40 am

    So what Chanwoo deserves from MD is to get slapped around, the same type of treatment he received from his exs? Righttttt. Makes sense. Let's not forget he is literally not obligated to continue a romantic relationship with MD or anyone if he does not consent to.

    fllmsy May 24, 2020 5:43 am
    So what Chanwoo deserves from MD is to get slapped around, the same type of treatment he received from his exs? Righttttt. Makes sense. Let's not forget he is literally not obligated to continue a romantic rela... crack dad

    people are legit messed in the head. imagine being an abuse victim and someone tells u need to be taught a lesson in order to fix ur trauma like ?????? what is wrong w u

    NillaWafer May 24, 2020 5:51 am

    ok but chanwoo wasn’t even being selfish, at they beginning they set clear rules that its a purely professional relationship and outside of that time their private life stays private, MD broke that rule and caught feelings and i think that is selfish to want to change the rules to benefit him(i love both of them obviously they were gonna fall in love its a manga)

    fllmsy May 24, 2020 5:52 am
    ok but chanwoo wasn’t even being selfish, at they beginning they set clear rules that its a purely professional relationship and outside of that time their private life stays private, MD broke that rule and ... NillaWafer

    yeah i agree chanwoo definitely wasn't being selfish since he doesnt owe MD anything.

    hellavile May 24, 2020 6:09 am

    YOU SAID WHAT YOU SAID. PREACH

    crack dad May 24, 2020 6:26 am
    people are legit messed in the head. imagine being an abuse victim and someone tells u need to be taught a lesson in order to fix ur trauma like ?????? what is wrong w u fllmsy

    its bc the "bottoms" always get a lot of hate which is SO dumb like honestly i like the realism in how chanwoo KNOWS what he wants instead of being easily persuaded by the "top? you know?

    ??? May 24, 2020 6:30 am
    its bc the "bottoms" always get a lot of hate which is SO dumb like honestly i like the realism in how chanwoo KNOWS what he wants instead of being easily persuaded by the "top? you know? crack dad

    they do and like there are more shitty semes then bad ukes like tf is wrong with people

    fllmsy May 24, 2020 6:36 am
    they do and like there are more shitty semes then bad ukes like tf is wrong with people ???

    in general (not directing it md n chanwoo), bl consumers love the 'he's not a bad guy, he jus has unresolved trauma n is misunderstood' when it comes to the semes lol. it lowkey stems from misogyny (since its the same in hetero relationships). this is precisely why characters like sangwoo from killing stalking has a weird ass fanbase. morals dont exist when you find the character sexy and it's problematic as hell

    ithinkyunowherethisabouttogo May 24, 2020 8:31 am

    Agreed. Chanwoo has the right to reject and be in any relationship he wants. He can reject who he wants. MD doesn't need to be petty, and manipulate and pressure Chanwoo. 'You don't have to do it, if you don't want to, but this means the other sub will replace you' - MD He knows that Chanwoo still wants to be his sub, so he won't say the safe word, and will go through something he doesn't want to. MD is petty.

    crack dad May 24, 2020 8:33 am
    in general (not directing it md n chanwoo), bl consumers love the 'he's not a bad guy, he jus has unresolved trauma n is misunderstood' when it comes to the semes lol. it lowkey stems from misogyny (since its t... fllmsy

    oh my god ur brainnnnn YESSSSSS I COULDNT SAY IT BETTER its LITERALLY misogyny. like the reason fangirls love yaoi is bc there's no woman to get in the way of the man but its basically the same thing

    Alextheaveragetrap May 24, 2020 8:34 am
    in general (not directing it md n chanwoo), bl consumers love the 'he's not a bad guy, he jus has unresolved trauma n is misunderstood' when it comes to the semes lol. it lowkey stems from misogyny (since its t... fllmsy

    Have you seen painter of the night fan base?

    fllmsy May 24, 2020 8:48 am
    oh my god ur brainnnnn YESSSSSS I COULDNT SAY IT BETTER its LITERALLY misogyny. like the reason fangirls love yaoi is bc there's no woman to get in the way of the man but its basically the same thing crack dad

    Yesssss!! misogyny also includes categorising gay men into certain stereotypes - the 'masculine'/top n more feminine/'bottom' - and that LITERALLY becomes their defining personality. Obviously, i shouldnt really expect much since that is the norm in most webtoons but i think it's an important topic to discuss since gay people aren't a fantasy - there real people who are gay irl. Chanwoo isn't just a bottom. He is a gay person that has been in abusive relationships. He deserves respect and communication from MD. People are just not getting it ugh

    fllmsy May 24, 2020 8:48 am
    Yesssss!! misogyny also includes categorising gay men into certain stereotypes - the 'masculine'/top n more feminine/'bottom' - and that LITERALLY becomes their defining personality. Obviously, i shouldnt reall... fllmsy

    there are*

    fllmsy May 24, 2020 8:50 am
    Have you seen painter of the night fan base? Alextheaveragetrap

    i dont follow the webtoon anymore but im gonna assume the seme (i forgot his name lol) has some big supporters lmao

    Alextheaveragetrap May 24, 2020 8:52 am
    i dont follow the webtoon anymore but im gonna assume the seme (i forgot his name lol) has some big supporters lmao fllmsy

    Yes and I think that story is worse because he was taken against his will but they love him.

    crack dad May 24, 2020 8:52 am
    Yesssss!! misogyny also includes categorising gay men into certain stereotypes - the 'masculine'/top n more feminine/'bottom' - and that LITERALLY becomes their defining personality. Obviously, i shouldnt reall... fllmsy

    LITERALLY YESSSS OH MY GOD THANK YOU that's why I put quotations on top and bottom bc in yaoi they're merely stereotypes and it infuriates me when people constantly ask who's the bottom, who's the top. etc. like why the fuck should that matter? gay relationships are not accessories to fetishize. they're real people with real emotions. moreover, the fact that a good amount of readers are for MD's actions is bizarre as fuck. Chanwoo's brain is trained to return back to those types of relationships that harm him bc he probably gets some sort of high from it and doesn't understand how to differentiate real love from toxicity, and it's a real problem that he needs to reflect and do some soul searching for-- not be "taught a lesson" by pety ass MD smh.

    fllmsy May 24, 2020 9:05 am
    LITERALLY YESSSS OH MY GOD THANK YOU that's why I put quotations on top and bottom bc in yaoi they're merely stereotypes and it infuriates me when people constantly ask who's the bottom, who's the top. etc. lik... crack dad

    if only everyone thought like you do omg. the latest chapter is concerning, but people's response to it is 100x more weird like teaching chanwoo a lesson?? what lesson exactly??

    fllmsy May 24, 2020 9:11 am
    LITERALLY YESSSS OH MY GOD THANK YOU that's why I put quotations on top and bottom bc in yaoi they're merely stereotypes and it infuriates me when people constantly ask who's the bottom, who's the top. etc. lik... crack dad

    the world would be a better place if everyone thought like you LOL. this chapter was.......yikes but people's responses? super concerning. like what exactly did chanwoo do to warrant this situation? MD is teaching chanwoo what lesson??

    (posted this before but didnt go through so not sure if i double replied)