Harada is starting suck hard core - the stories aren't that great anymore. predictable and stupid.
With how author handle things. I think MD will corner Chanwoo, since he cant hold him romantically, his sub position is what MD has an upper hand. author uses "Love heals us all indeed" card indeed lol
because he is an older man. he knows abuse victims find it hard to say no, and to leave their partners. He has seen it himself that chanwoo will deal with any pain and wont say no. Slapping him like that, when he has seen his bruised face, really tells me he doesnt respect chanwoo, or care about him really.
Thats just my opinion. I get a healthy person doing BDSM and i am not shaming anyone for enjoying it. It just sends warning bells to me, to see an abuse victim in a situation like this.
Things really became negative for me when i saw chanwoo with the bruised face.
AHAHAHAHAAHAH but did it happen yet?? Did u see the next chapter yet????
I love how people ignoring the fact Chan got a fucking choice to leave or stay and he chooses to STAY. yap let's ignore that shit and say he didn't choose it and he is abuse right now, cause he can't choose XD go figure out that logic of people ╮(￣▽￣)╭
agreed, it's not even that sick anymore, the shock value is gone. but try reading harada's recent translated work, a gintama dj. I think this is good
https://myreadingmanga.info/paraiso-harada-gintama-dj-sekijitsu-eng/
you write so much and say so little. I bet you don't even take the time to read replies. you just regurgitate the same shit over and over. people here in the comment section are telling you what bdsm is and how it can go from fun to abusive, yet you are not getting it.
Oh well am just saying am not gonna jump the gun and call someone who has always repeatedly asked and said “chanwoo are you okay? You can use the safe word you know?” Over and over again and even took care of chanwoo after their bdsm play and even when they chanwoo actually got abused, I can’t just call someone like that abusive because of one slap. I mean he has whipped chanwoo b4 and didn’t he choke him or something (I forgot lol). But how to put it......it’s like I go around calling my brother abusive just cuz he smacked me breaking his ps4 or something. It was done in fit of rage it’s not like he likes to tie me up and punch me or just start kicking me when he gets angry.
I didn’t say MD is an abuser, I said this situation is abusive, there’s a difference. The relationship has clearly changed since the whole rejection arc and this is the culmination of it.
HE WAS ABUSED, HE WAS ABUSED AND STAYED WITH HIS ABUSIVE BF. Can't you get that? that ABUSED people can't see that they are no longer safe????? because they thought staying in the relationship is much important than their safety??????????? Abused and easily manipulated people cannot give a PROPER consent. damn maychan you lack complex logic. gtfo
I think this manga puppy don't read replies. s/he was telling the same shit over and over again
MD can be seen as an abuser, he is abusive of his position as dom. but I still agree with you.
Um to xielian_in love, this is my reply to your comment No no I do. I do read trust me. And if you do read yourself, you would understand what I’ve been saying since in all of my replies. Please go read them like you are telling me to do am tired of typing, if not then don’t come after me
Now if u don’t have the guts to take my replies then don’t please don’t hop on my comments that we’re not directed at you and block me later. Keep ur disrespectful comments to urself
ooh I'll give it a shot, thanks for the rec!
So do I with you and Jess and I do see your perspective given the fact that a victim is conditioned towards abuse whether it has a sexual component and not. However this situation in particular is toxic because up to this point we saw MD as the good guy and now he’s really no different from his other exes.
I do read replies. U guys are the ones that don’t. Cuz if u read all my replies then you would catch on to what am saying. I repeat the same things cuz u guys repeat the same things too. Am only replying what u give me. So don’t hop on a thread without connecting the dots properly on who is saying what and who is doing what
puppy stfu, I block you bc you're annoying. at first I was "ok she has a different POV, she seems very young, and obviously likes the sadistic aspect of this chapter" but after the 9th time I see your name pop up in several comment threads, I can tell you just don't get it. I'd rather chat with other people whether or not they agree with me. stop shooting replies without reading stuff properly or you'll end up looking even more stupid. xo tschuss
if he was sooo abused why does he seek sub/dom contract? yeas Chanwoo is the one who seeks for it despite he can't say no, what kind of ruin the whole thing.
Chanwoo will keep seeking that kind of Dom/Sub relationship and he will not stop despite he can't say no! if Chan chooses to stay in there, there is nothing people can do for him until he learn to fucking say NO and leave.
You sort of contradicted yourself. Chanwoo has been into the idea of bdsm for a long time but hadnt found the right partner. Plus the guys he dated were always trash that had no respect for him. MD didnt fit his type physically, but he obvs knew what he was doing when it came to bdsm which is why Chanwoo doesnt want to lose their dynamic. As a dom, MD fits Chanwoo's ideals as a master.
If he is such an expert on how bdsm works and therefore a slap is nothing, why would he need to learn anything? If he already knows what is up, what lesson is there to learn? That is where the contradiction comes to play. Chanwoo does need to learn to take better care of himself before becoming a sub, because otherwise it is dangerous for him and his dom. In this case, for MD. Chanwoo isnt entirely free of fault, but neither is MD. MD is aware that Chanwoo has to learn limits before he can continue as a sub. Could that not be a reason why he hadn't contacted Chanwoo in so long? I mean that choking session was obviously not enjoyable for either of them. Id say MD was pretty fucked over it. Chanwoo didnt understand that what happened that day was wrong and unintentional. Im trying to see it from a more positive perspective since this is fiction. Id say that since this is a work of fiction, Chanwoo is better off learning about limits with MD than he is with a stranger that might not care and kill Chanwoo in the process. At least MD knew he had to stop at some point. Another dom might think Chanwoo is perfectly capable of saying no. But he isnt.
Okay, so people have been saying that MD and Chanwoo's relationship is beginning to be toxic and unhealthy. Dude, it's BDSM, a 'simple slap' isn't enough to faze something into considering the idea of a toxic relationship. Why bother reading a story about BDSM when you can't even stand a single slap from a seme to his uke?
Also, MD and Chanwoo doesn't even have a proper relationship yet. I say he's only being professional on being a DOM and he only slapped him because Chanwoo decided to disobey his order. That's what DOMs do to their SUBs. I don't mean to sound rude but, some of the readers here are a bit ignorant of BDSM. Seriously, it's not like he forced Chanwoo to obey his orders. He said it himself, "If you don't want to do it, you can leave". But, Chanwoo decided to stay so he's willing to obey him.
If you can still remember, there was this one chapter where MD punished Chanwoo—I think it was in chapter 20 to 30, I'm not sure—, and at that time, Chanwoo didn't give MD the consent to punish him. He uses some type of whip to hit his body at different areas.
My point here is, what's the difference of that scenario to what happened in the latest chapter, where MD slapped Chanwoo? And if there is a difference, it's still BDSM, a slap is normal in that field. Heck, there are even more things that is worse than a slap and y'all are getting so worked up about it.
Also, this is not trying to romanticed the both of them. I'm sure it will all work out in the next chapter.
If you want an example of a 'real toxic relationship', try reading Killing Stalking. That's the perfect example of an unhealthy relationship.
PS: This is just my view with regards to the happenings in the latest chapter. Feel free to agree and disagree.