Amen to that.
On point
Try reading anything from Harada! Thats fucken TOXIC!
baby girl, it was not the slap we are talking about. but the whole "test" MD was trying to force Chanwoo with, this is not a healthy BDSM, and you should know when a roleplay is no longer safe
i think the biggest thing that makes the slap seem outside the realm of bdsm and toeing the line into abuse for a lot of people is because of the fact that MD's anger seems to stem from Chanwoo's rejection and not so much his disobedience... at least that's how it feels to me, myself and i. i don't know about everyone else.
It’s not the slap, it’s the fact that it comes after he refuses to kiss the guy. Forcing someone into a sexual act with a person they clearly don’t want to interact with is rape sis. Pure and simple. And if we wanna bring bdsm into it, how about the fact that MD was sold to us as a DD and now all of a sudden he’s being uncaring. He may have consented to being with MD but he didn’t consent to being with this other dude.
You arent gonna get through to people like them. They are set on the idea that Chanwoo isnt being forced into anything and told he can leave. But I guess only those with common sense will know that Chanwoo isnt responsible enough to be a sub because he cant say no even if it kills him.
Yes yes. It’s the situation that’s making people think it was toxic. I mean if he slapped chanwoo and chanwoo only made a face of pleasure or maybe he begs md like “master please don’t” or something like that people are not gonna think much about it and pass it off as “their play”
It’s just unfortunate that a practice built on consent and trust is being used to excuse abuse and possibly rape.
the author even showed us these scenes:
1. Chanwoo can't use the safeword even if he is strangled
2. Chanwoo got beaten by his ex - he had an abusive relationship before
either they are too young or just ignorant
Am sorry what? How did rape get here
What else would you call forcing Chanwoo to mate with a person he doesn’t want to with?
rape as in he was forced to kiss the snake
Consent means “yes and yes” so long as he said “yes” in the book of consent it’s a go go. But if it’s a “no and yes” and he says “NO”. That’s when it’s a no-go. This is bdsm pure moral tactics don’t work here. Bdsm is all about abuse and immoral things. It’s pleasure built from pain. Now am no fan of bdsm but ik this much.
i mean that's the exact way everyone was able to forgive MD for the unexpected punishment in chapter 37....
no, consent is not a black and white situation.
a person being manipulated and cornered can no longer give consent.
First off rape happens when sex is involved. At least that’s the local definition. But apparently these days a mere touch (Sometimes by mistake) and people yell rape. Sexual Assault and rape are two different things. Now like I said in my previous comment this is bdsm consent means “YES and YES” as long as you say the word “yes” that mean you agree and everything is green light not non consent is “YES-NO” as long as you say “no” that’s when it’s red light. Chanwoo agreed. He is well versed on what bdsm means. Moral thinking does not go with bdsm. It’s pleasure from pain.
But he is not manipulated that’s the thing. See chanwoo has been doing bdsm for a long time and I bet he knows how far things could get. He could have walked away but no he stayed. In my opinion chanwoo needs something really strong to change him cuz all his bad past experiences doesn’t seem to have done the trick. If something is not done it’s only going to get worse. Compared to what he has been through I say this is nothing
True.
Yes cuz Chanwoo is an expert at saying no? Which is why he’s never been abused (as he is now) by anyone else in the past. Also “rape” as in if he is really made to go through with it i.e the “mating”
Okay, so people have been saying that MD and Chanwoo's relationship is beginning to be toxic and unhealthy. Dude, it's BDSM, a 'simple slap' isn't enough to faze something into considering the idea of a toxic relationship. Why bother reading a story about BDSM when you can't even stand a single slap from a seme to his uke?
Also, MD and Chanwoo doesn't even have a proper relationship yet. I say he's only being professional on being a DOM and he only slapped him because Chanwoo decided to disobey his order. That's what DOMs do to their SUBs. I don't mean to sound rude but, some of the readers here are a bit ignorant of BDSM. Seriously, it's not like he forced Chanwoo to obey his orders. He said it himself, "If you don't want to do it, you can leave". But, Chanwoo decided to stay so he's willing to obey him.
If you can still remember, there was this one chapter where MD punished Chanwoo—I think it was in chapter 20 to 30, I'm not sure—, and at that time, Chanwoo didn't give MD the consent to punish him. He uses some type of whip to hit his body at different areas.
My point here is, what's the difference of that scenario to what happened in the latest chapter, where MD slapped Chanwoo? And if there is a difference, it's still BDSM, a slap is normal in that field. Heck, there are even more things that is worse than a slap and y'all are getting so worked up about it.
Also, this is not trying to romanticed the both of them. I'm sure it will all work out in the next chapter.
If you want an example of a 'real toxic relationship', try reading Killing Stalking. That's the perfect example of an unhealthy relationship.
PS: This is just my view with regards to the happenings in the latest chapter. Feel free to agree and disagree.