Thank you!!
I have tears in my eyes. Thank you.
Please say it louder for the people at the back
#MDisoverparty
YES
MD ask him to make a choice to stay or leave. it is consent, you can't say it isn't if the guy agree to stay!
Find a dictionary and look up "coercion"
They must’ve missed the chapter where it was shown Chanwoo has been in abusive relationships and refused to use the safe word even though it was getting too intense :/ some ppl r just unable to critically think
That's coercion my dude. MD has the upper hand and they're in a 'competition'. Its like saying, if you don't do this our contact is over. A forced competition.. Chanwoo says no multiple times. Gets smacked instead & given an ultimatum. Oof
again Chanwoo chooses to stay in this contact, he had the chance to leave! MD doesn't own him anything since he is in business contact. he didn't force him if he asks him if he wants to stay or not, again Chanwoo wants to stay with MD!! you can't say he isn't.
MD owes Chanwoo everything BECAUSE it is a business contract. He should be more aware of the rules and understand to let his personal feelings to interfere with the BDSM play. You’re not even making any sense
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Chanwoo should owe more since it is a "business contract" and not bring his sex partners to his working place. simple has that. if he can't do that, well he got what is coming.
ok we get it u like to victim blame <3
yap we get that you LOVE to make him into a victim that he is not causing it was his choice to stay!
Nah the coercion part? Dangling their contract over his head in a competition. Making them think it'll be who pleases him the most that'll win. Commanding them to fuck each other even tho Chanwoo only consented with MD. Getting unwanted touches & an order during an s&m play. Even tho he says no, smack him so hard until he's submissive enough to keep going. That's the messed up part. This goes beyond bdsm & it now just looks like Chanwoo is still going along just to please MD. In this situation MD should know better. He shouldve actually stopped what he was doing and asked him sincerely if he wanted to stop or not. In bdsm, as a sub your emotions are all over the place. And it's the job of the dom to make sure the sub still wants to keep going. In this situation he doesn't stop, he doesn't check on him. He smacks him and gives him an ultimatum. Now you think Chanwoo has a clear enough mind to decide after that? No one knows, and that's the sad part cause the dom should know.
1. he didn't only consent to MD, they agree to only have a business contract while Chanwoo can go and fuck other people.
2. Chanwoo wanted to have sex with the guy even before he knows anything about him, and if the guy would have agreed they would have had sex anyway.
3. business/work should not mix with personal sex partners - he should not have bring him to MD! Period
4. he agrees to do it after giving the choice to leave this business contract, he chooses to stay after MD asked him!
1. Yeah he did. This is a s&m play with MD. This is about their contract, you wouldn't expect a third party to be asked to join when it has always been just two ppl. And just cause it says in the contract that he can have sex outside of their situation doesn't mean he consented to having sex with a stranger.
2. Consent can change. Just cause he wanted to have sex with him before, he doesn't want it now.
3. I get this part. Chanwoo was stupid doing this but it was also stupid of MD to make it into a competition cause now it does involve a third party.
4. And this is the part where ppl are arguing with consent or not. You can say he agreed to stay because MD asked him. And we can say he didnt because he was coerced into agreeing. You can say its just a business contract, but where's the fairness of the situation when MD was the one who decides it all?
At the end of the day we're gonna agree to disagree with one another. But I'm still just gonna say MD messed up in this bdsm scene cause that's not how you should treat your sub
the " fairness" is that MD asked if he wants to stay in this contract or not. even if you say Chanwoo is dumb, was force into it ble ble ble he STILL said he agrees to stay when he was asked to do this "competition" that mostly I don't care, Chan would have sex with the guy anyway if given the chance by himself even if you say he does not want to do it now.
I wonder what you all say after Chan and that guy would have sex and then Chan would find out what the guy aiming for, would you still blame MD then?
Wow imagine being a dominant and not respecting the trust of your submissive, for anyone out there whom is interested in getting into a ds relationship, this is not ok! Consent and safety should always be priority, you should always discuss what your partner is ok with and what they are not, and you should definitely not emotionally manipulate them into doing what you want.