My What if???

oh hun, i pray you are kidding. Everything you mentioned is what abusive, manipulative people do. They give you love, and then do things to guilt you into staying. Into thinking you are changing. They say that they will commit suicide if you arent with them.

it wasnt lack of communication that caused this mess, but the fact that the uke was raped. Please dont blame the victim, even if he didnt respond to jihyuns feelings it doesnt excuse anything he did. Especially by the time they reunited he was too afraid to reject him.

It's not that I'm blaming Chiwoo I was just saying his at fault too for being indecisive

It's not being manipulative.
It's clear that Jinhyun is really sorry and devastated on what happen.However there's no way to prove it that's why I've thought of that what if besides his world revolves around Chiwoo so w/o him his life is meaningless so which makes killing urself a better idea since living in a world like an empty is practically the same.

What you said is all manipulative. Other people aren't responsable for our feelings. It doesn't matter if he really was sorry, not only he did what he did in the past when he came back, he isoled and threatened the main character to make him leave a person he cared. It doesn't matter if he loved the main character or not, if he had a difficult past or not, people aren't rehabilitation centers for crappy lifes. Trying to kill yourself so "the other person understand what you are trying to say" is abusive. Google it very quickly and you will see it. We all have terrible life stories, some worse than others, that doesn't justify abusing others and putting on them the weight to save you from pain. Some people don't love you back, that's sad but that's life. If you have any other reacting besides letting the person live their life is where you are at wrong. He almost followed an abuser manual: he had angry tantrums than said how sorry he was (over and over), isoled the "person he loved", threatened a third part and put the blame in case he did anything on "the person he loved" because he knew what he could do (and explictly told him that), forced his presence in the life of the "person he loved" even though the person explicitly told him to leave (in name of love). LOVE ISN'T A JUSTIFICATION FOR ABUSE.

Well that's you.

Yeah, other people aren't responsible for our feelings but they do have a big influence. Coz people words affects our feeling no matter how hard u deny it.
Just like in raising a child
If a child grew up in an environment where killing seems normal of course that child will do it .

Besides it's just my what if. I wrote it coz I’ll keep thinking about it if I don't.

Now if ur good with the story great.

ARE YOU HEARING YOURSELF?? DID YOU READ BACK WHAT YOU WROTE?? DID YOU JUST SAY HE SHOULD TRY TO KILL HIMSELF TO SHOW HIS LOVE??

THATS CALLED EMOTIONAL MANIPULATION

HE DOESNT HAVE TO DECIDE. NORMAL PEOPLE DONT FORCE SOMEONE TO CHOOSE. YOU DONT FORCE YOURSELF ONTO SOMEONE WHO IS TAKING TO LONG TO PICK WHETHER THEY WANNA BE WITH YOU OR NOT

ESPECIALLY AFTER SAID PERSON HAS REJECTED YOU ARE YOU REALLY OKAY?

HES NOT SORRY HE JUST WANTS TO FEEL BETTER AB HIMSELF AND JUSTIFY HIS ACTIONS GET OUTTA HERE WITH THAT

That's just my what if I ain't forcing my thought to anyone. OK!
If ur ok with the ending then be it.

it’s not the fact that you’re forcing me to think of it a different way. it’s that what you’re saying is wrong and dangerous. this is such a narrative and i hope others don’t see this and adopt this way of thinking

That's what if for the manga ok ! FOR THE MANGA ! If I were the one to do a what if chapter.
Chill lax
This is getting toxic.
Those are my thoughts if u have ur own then write it.

We're talking about the manga here.

There's so many books out there with dark thoughts. If its dangerous then why do they publish it ??

If an authors can share those what u so called dangerous why can't I ?? Coz I ain't an author?? I ain't famous??What's the logic?

Well, You are u and I am me so think whatever u want. I'm out.

this discussion isn't getting toxic! your ideals/opinions are whats toxic. i understand that this is a work of fiction but that mentality is just NOT the move.

i unerstand 1000% that this is just a work of fiction. but it's just so dangerous to put stuff like that out here bc there are SO many younger readers on here who DON'T need to romanticize suicide or emotional manipulation!!

You need help sis. Even if it was a "what if" there's a truth you believe in in some of the stuff you said and that's seriously messed up.

Threatening someone to stay with you, isolating them from friends or hobbies, stalking them and RAPING are serious issues and obvious red flags of someone you'd want to stay away from.

Maybe you.
That's just my what if of the manga AND FOR THE MANGA!!! now if don't like it write ur own. If ur good with the story Great for you!!!

I just share my thoughts just like the others sharing thier own about the new seme and Chiwoo.

hahaah Then create ur own
It's clearly written MY WHAT IF.

If there's books with those thoughts out in public already what's the difference???
Status of the person who wrote it?
If ur ain't an author sharing ur thoughts are forbidden??
What nonsense.

How come it's toxic??? My thoughts /opinion didn't do anything. Did it hurt u???

Ur the one making it toxic just because u don't like it ur saying those things why don't u create ur own instead of insisting urs to me.
If u really think it's dangerous then go out there search for everyone who put up similar thoughts to mine. Even respective authors tell them what they are putting is dangerous include everybody don't just randomly pick or come to someone just bcoz they ain't labeled or popular.
Yeah So many youngerster reading here and so many manga about dark thoughts, killing and suicide here as well.　If you really think that my what if is dangerous Before u telling me those shouldn't u start with the authors first!! Coz manga is more important than my thoughts.


And It ain't gonna change I still like Jihyun 2D character and my what if won't change.

i’m not making anything toxic. there’s a difference between fiction, and someone who is REAL promoting such dark/dangerous ideals. i don’t really care who you like or dislike in the manga because you’re correct, it’s a MANGA. but when the character you’re supporting is a mentally unstable, abusive, manipulative asshole the. you should probably expect some clap back when people are upset by your “what if’s”

the entire “what if” is so manipulative and i just don’t want you or anyone else thinking that anyone should ever be treated that way. some people get wrapped up in fantasy, and while that probably isn’t the case for you i just wanted to call out what i saw was harmful in you made up “theory”.

i don’t mean you any disrespect and it’s great that we can have an open discussion about things like this. but i can wholly agree with supporting jihyun after he gets help and wants him to find someone he can actually LOVE and not obsess over. chiwoo never did anything completely wrong in this series. when he was a TEENAGER he brushed off his friends feelings instead of openly discussing them. that’s the only thing i can think of that he could’ve handled better.

anyways ik this is long and i’m annoying but i’m done arguing this topic just like i feel you are. i hope you’re staying safe during the pandemic! best wishes for you and your family.

I DIDNT JUST RANDOMLY PICK OUT YOU HAHA SORRY I DIDNT READ THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH

i pick on everyone who says some bull like this in the comments. ive commented on here sooooo many times it’s SOOO ugly istg. i’m not trying to force my opinion on you but if anyone else sees this conversation i want them to know that jihyun ISNT okay hahah. sorry i need to stop reading only the first sentence