Don’t bother yourself. They’ve rationalized this because of how the author themself has poorly shown and romanticized the events of this story through their ending. It’s insulting to actual people who experience abuse and exploitation fully utilizing their experience for profit as the author has in full detail and then reducing it to the argument it was all necessary in order for “love” to succeed. I mean all the depictions of Wonho and Eunwoo’s own toxic relationship is undermined when there are only consequences for Wonho’s apparent missteps but Eunwoo’s own are rewarded and even celebrated by its audience. The author has also done an awful job of actually portraying the reality of being an abuser and being a victim simultaneously are realities for people. They used everything they could from the experience and then fumbled it greatly. Honestly the more I think of the plot and madder I get being someone who actually works in the film industry at least in the USA and knowing personally people such as my own family members who have experienced the plights suffered by Wonho and others in his place.
Also I'm stopping here. I said what I think is right. Life isn't idealistic utopia. Someone can be abuser and face abuse themselves. For me it's clear that Wonho was sexually exploited and industry took advantage of him. It's immoral and low.
Also there is expression in my mother tongue "treat someone as a slave"... Maybe my national language is in poor taste? I agree maybe it wasn't the best expression. For that I'm sorry.
But I'm done with this discussion.
Goodbye
Thank you so much. I agree with everything you said.
You are right it's a waste of time to fight with someone who already made their mind and act as if their point of view was unerring.
Also disappointed in the turn this story took. Wasted potential in my opinion.
The industry has a lot of issues all over the world. I never negated that fact. But at the end of the day, people make their own choices, bad or good. Now say Wonho's CEO said do this or get fired. Yes, that would be consider coercion. Eunwoo and Wonho's relationship is consider quid pro quo, which means doing something in return of a favor. While this can fall under the terms of rape if one person has considerably more power than another, I don't necessarily see it as rape until it is made clear the retribution will be taken if the offer is rejected, which didn't happen in this case.
Should someone be able to do anything to a person during sex if they don't want it? No. I never said that. But like I stated, Wonho should have simply exited the relationship once he had issues with it. He never had a male sponsor before, so why accept one now. Or, better yet, he continued the sponsorships with other people but broke up with Minki. If the situation was different I would also say for him for file a report against Eunwoo, but that probably wouldn't have worked given the situation. Either way, Wonho didn't want to give up anything while recieving everything.
Once again, I agree that Eunwoo was a very, very fucked up man. He definitely did not do anything right or nice, except for supporting him secretly in the beginning, but neither did Wonho. Wonho made the choice to put up with Eunwoo's fucked up personality (bad choice but a choice nonetheless). He chose to sleep with a fucked up dude, he chose to get sponsors, he chose to have fame and fortune the easy way. Sorry, but still no pity.
I would probably compare this situation to drug use. I don't support it but if you chose to use drugs, I'm not going to feel bad for you for suffering the consequences.
The ending of this story in Eunwoo and Wonho's case was insulting and unnecessary, I agree to that. It's not surprising Eunwoo didn't suffer any consequences given his place in society. As we have seen on the news many abusers have gotten but a slap on the wrist if anyone ever acknowledge what they did. While I don't think Eunwoo was right in his actions, that definitely doesn't make me feel bad for Wonho. I don't think either of them deserve happiness.
And while it's ashame that the industry takes advantage of desperate people who want to make a name of themselves, most of these people are adults and they have the choice to walk away. If Wonho was a minor I would have very different opinions.
Life ain't simple but it is not as complicated as y'all make it seem.
And I'm done.
I'm glad you're down with this conversation because I'm not even going to touch this very poorly understood argument. comparing this to drug use, oh honey. please experience the world around you, no one does anything for free and out of selflessness, we don't live in that world.
Thank you for being condescending despite the fact that I was respectful this whole time. It just shows your poor argument skills. And as you said, no one does anything for free in this world, so wake up and realize nothing can be gotten without earning it but the way you choose to do that is a personal choice. Stay mad.
Seriously it will be the last post. But sorry it was rather ignorant what you wrote. You completely dismissed mentall problems, like depression and other disorders. You dismissed circumstances, upbringing, environment, physical illnesses, material status.
Your approach is rather saddening. And unempathetic.
Life is bigger than good and bad. "Choices" are also shaped and impacted or even forced by many factor.
And by your logic coercion would also in the end be a choice. If the boss would blackmail their employee they can always search for a different job or sue him. But we know it doesn't work like that.
And you said on the next page that Wonho didn't have looks (although I think he had but it's just my subjective opinion). And it's important factor in SK... So how can you be soo sure he would be successful. Because it really doesn't make bigger sense.
We have different opinion and it doesn't look like anyone will change their. So that's it.
Goodnight
"And you said on the next page that Wonho didn't have looks (although I think he had but it's just my subjective opinion). And it's important factor in SK... So how can you be soo sure he would be successful. Because it really doesn't make bigger sense." Sorry I mistook you for a different user. My mistake
I don't get why everyone likes wonho so much and caping for his ass. He put himself in this situation then acted like a victim. He's the only character I honestly didn't like. Eunwoo was manipulative but at least he was upfront about it. And everyone hating on Taeyoung for pushing his love on Minki. Minki is an adult. He could have said no. Everything isn't black and white, and I honestly love stories that are more complex but this is almost like an annoying kdrama full of tropes instead of being complex.
That being said, I definitely feel like halfway through the story the author put more focus on the side couple and thus more development into those characters, which was a shame because I enjoyed the main couple and was waiting for the focus on them once shit went down but instead the second couple became the main characters. I think part of the reason so many people prefer the second couple is because the author gave up on the first couple and wasn't interested in their story by the end.
Overall, the story was well written but not my favorite.