same feeling?

I don't recall them saying men wanting to be women just to experience lesbian sex is okay. Because it's not. It's also fetishizing. Being a gay man isn't all about pleasure or sex like yaoi sometimes makes it seem like. Gay men aren't experiments or toys you "wanna be" for the pleasure

i just said that twice what the fuck

i'll go cry now

well yes because it depends on your sexual orientation, and most sraight men who would be changed into women wouldn't want to have sex with a man. Now a gay man would maybe prefer to have sex with a man since it's their sexual orientation

Now for females turning into men: If you were to change your body to a male's one, your sexual orientation wouldn't change. So if you're a straight female you would prefer to test gay sex rather than straight sex because the thought of having sex with a female does not please you. I'm bi tho I've mostly been going out with males, so when I imagine myself as a male, I imagine being bi but mostly attracted to males like I am now.

It may change for some people, but what I'm trying to say is that it's not fetishizing. What you are saying tho, is indeed fetishizing. You are saying that you can want to test sex as the opposite gender, but only if it's straight?... Regardless of the person's sexual orientation? So what, being gay is "special" ?
I understand that someone saying "oooh I wish I were gay" is infuriating. I'm bi after all and I know damn well that this is not a choice and that there is discrimination.
But I think everyone here is talking about sex, they want to test sex as the opposite gender but not change their sexual orientation

I hope what I said made sense, english isn't my first language and it can get confusing.
But yeah, I also wanted to add that of course there's some fetizasion going on in the yaoi community, that's just not how I understood their post and the people replying. Maybe I'm wrong tho

Now everyone hug eachother and go watch the movie Close-knit with Ikuta Toma and cry because of his lovely portrayal of a m2f transgender person.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5633706/

please seek therapy

bc men saying they want to become woman identify as trans while yall straight girls who want to be men don't identify as such, yall just want to feed your gross delusions

men who want to be women are called trans, same with women who want to be men. but i don't think that's what yall want because trans people get killed on the daily, they're victims of REAL LIFE abuse. of course you don't want that. what you want is to feed your gross delusions of gay men and their relationships. you want to experience the false image bl gives you. and that's what fetishization is, it's not just fucking curiosity.

men who want to be women are called trans, same with women who want to be men. but i don't think that's what yall want because trans people get killed on the daily, they're victims of REAL LIFE abuse. of course you don't want that. what you want is to feed your gross delusions of gay men and their relationships. you want to experience the false image bl gives you. and that's what fetishization is, it's not just fucking curiosity.

a man who wants to be a woman is called trans, same with a woman who wants to be a man. these are real people who suffer through immense transphobia, abuse, danger, and sometimes, in other countries, they're killed, simply because of not identifying as their assigned gender. but i don't think that's what y'all want. you want to feed your gross delusions and fantasies that y'all see in bl, you think relationships of gay men are always beautiful because that's what you see being portrayed in bl most of the time. they just fuck. you don't want to suffer through the struggles actual lgbt people experience every day. and yes, that's fetishizing, it's not fucking curiosity.

a man who wants to be a woman is called trans, same with a woman who wants to be a man. these are real people who suffer through immense transphobia, abuse, danger, and sometimes, in other countries, they're killed, simply because of not identifying as their assigned gender. but i don't think that's what y'all want. you want to feed your gross delusions and fantasies that y'all see in bl, you think relationships of gay men are always beautiful because that's what you see being portrayed in bl most of the time. they just fuck. you don't want to suffer through the struggles actual lgbt people experience every day. and yes, that's fetishizing, it's not fucking curiosity.

a man who wants to be a woman is called trans, same with a woman who wants to be a man. these are real people who suffer through immense transphobia, abuse, danger, and sometimes, in other countries, they're killed, simply because of not identifying as their assigned gender. but i don't think that's what y'all want. you want to feed your gross delusions and fantasies that y'all see in bl, you think relationships of gay men are always beautiful because that's what you see being portrayed in bl most of the time. they just fuck. you don't want to suffer through the struggles actual lgbt people experience every day. and yes, that's fetishizing, it's not fucking curiosity.

a man who wants to be a woman is called trans, same with a woman who wants to be a man. these are real people who suffer through immense transphobia, abuse, danger, and sometimes, in other countries, they're killed, simply because of not identifying as their assigned gender. but i don't think that's what y'all want. you want to feed your gross delusions and fantasies that y'all see in bl, you think relationships of gay men are always beautiful because that's what you see being portrayed in bl most of the time. they just fuck. you don't want to suffer through the struggles actual lgbt people experience every day. and yes, that's fetishizing, it's not fucking curiosity.

what the fuck is going on with this site im sorry for commenting like 5 times idk

What you talking about, I've have this discussion countless times with my male friends and they all told me that they'd love to know what sex feels like for women.
And you haven't read my other messages but saying "you don't want to suffer through the struggles actual lgbt people experience every day" is kinda unrespectful. Why do you think I'm straight ? I'm not, I'm totally bi, I know the struggles thank you for explaining me.
No I'm not trans, no I don't want to suffer from the abuse they suffer, I have my own.
But yes, I wish I could feel the male orgasm, both with a man and a woman. I invite you two to read my other comments that explain my thoughts

Why would i seek therapy? because of my curiosity?

And first of all i respect LGBTQ

Of course if you are an LGBTQ person you really need to experience discrimination, not everything has an easy path along with what you are going through. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings I just want to share my curiosity you don't need to make it a big deal just because you're offend of course we women have curiosity about men and men have curiositu about women? is it wrong to have that kind of curiosity? should i apologize?