I want there to be more. I was half expecting Amane to be a girl crossdressing, not a tran...

FlyFly April 11, 2020 7:43 am

I want there to be more. I was half expecting Amane to be a girl crossdressing, not a trans guy.
I had read a manga about a guy that seemed to be a transwoman but it turned out he just liked dressing as a woman. I was pretty disappointed as it honestly seemed like he was going through gender dysphoria and would have been a great story about a transwoman.
I also read one where the woman was actually transgendered, but because of her love of this guy she decided not to get the surgery she had been saving up for... it was a shitty story in the end. Instead of her lover accepting her as a woman he said he couldnt love a woman and she changed for him.

I mean I understand if he couldnt feel attracted to her, that is ok, but she shouldnt have had to change for him.

Responses
    Cloudz February 3, 2021 4:16 am

    What is the name of the manga ^^

    FlyFly February 3, 2021 2:21 pm

    http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kono_koi_ni_mirai_wa_nai/
    That is the 1st one the 2nd one i dont remember the name at all.

    Cloudz February 4, 2021 6:12 am
    http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/kono_koi_ni_mirai_wa_nai/That is the 1st one the 2nd one i dont remember the name at all. FlyFly

    Arigato

    Natsu May 3, 2021 5:32 am

    I know what story you’re talking about I can’t remember the name tho but I don’t see the problem. The first story you talk about there is nothing wrong with the guy liking to crossdress and not want to be a woman. There is plenty of males who love cute things and looking cute but not want to change themselves or their bodies. I don’t see what so “disappointing” about that.

    The second story i agree it is silly for them to change for love but i also believe it’s a good thing because if they did get the top+bottom surgery and discovered they hate it they can’t change it. I remember watching a girl try sue a doctor because of the choices she made to get surgery and be on medication to become a man. The person in that story clearly didn’t know what they wanted. If they really wanted to be a female they would have gotten it regardless of what others say but they chose not to. They will always get a chance to do it if they feel like that who they are and want to become. Also their lover was attracted to MEN he couldn’t accept her because she was a woman. He never told her to change for him she wanted to. As long as they’re happy that all that matters.

    FlyFly May 3, 2021 7:07 am
    I know what story you’re talking about I can’t remember the name tho but I don’t see the problem. The first story you talk about there is nothing wrong with the guy liking to crossdress and not want to be... Natsu

    I don't think there is anything wrong with a guy wearing dresses and liking it or liking cute things. In all honesty to me dresses, makeup, cute things aren't for any specific gender its for the enjoyment of any gender.
    My thing was the story made it seem, at least to me, like he wanted to be a woman. That from childhood he had wanted to be a girl and he had issues with his male body. There isn't anything wrong with being confused and questioning your gender, just like its OK to question ones sexuality. I was just expecting one thing and got something else so it was disappointing to me. If it's not disappointing to you that's great.

    The second one I didn't like because to me it came off as "love can cure your transness". It cant.
    If I remember correctly
    The woman in the story had wanted to transition for a long time and she ended up not doing it because the guy she liked said he liked her but as a man not a woman. Again he doesn't need to change his sexual orientation for her. He doesn't need to like women. So if he shouldn't change for her she also shouldn't be something she is not.

    I don't think if someone needs transition they will do it regardless of what those around them say. It can be very difficult for someone to transition if those around them aren't supportive especially if it's someone they love and trust. Society as a whole is not yet all that accepting of trans ppl. There is a lot of trabsphobia and it could stop someone from getting gender affirming surgery, even if they are sure of who they are.

    This story could have been about her accepting the person she likes isn't interesed in her as a woman and even though it can be painful that its ok. Its OK for her to transition and be who she is, and maybe finding someone who accepts her as the woman she is.

    The person you are talking about it is sad that she started to transition and then later realised she wasnt trans. That being said the amount of ppl that retransition is really low as of right now it is about 1%-8%. This is not to diminish the pain the ppl that retransition go through but it is a pretty small percentage because there are Drs you have to talk to and go through a lot of therapy to make sure it is the right path. You can't just go to a Dr and say I want to transition and them do it. It takes a lot of time and money.

    Natsu May 3, 2021 4:40 pm
    I don't think there is anything wrong with a guy wearing dresses and liking it or liking cute things. In all honesty to me dresses, makeup, cute things aren't for any specific gender its for the enjoyment of an... FlyFly

    Actually to the last one you can. There are alot of underground doctors who perform any illegal surgery (like plastic surgery, along with give hormones to people who want to transition) which is why so many people die (most of them don’t even get reported) because of these low cost surgeries/medication.

    But i do agree that the second story the author could have done the ending a bit better maybe the woman get the surgery she wants and the guy learns to love her even though she a woman or they remain as great friends and move on with new lives supporting one other.

    The first story was fine. He just loves crossdressing and not becoming a woman. A lot of people tends to mix up crossdressing with wanting to be a woman/male.

    Stories like those would be a great support system for trans people who doesn’t have the support from family or friends. But then again thanks to the world slowly changing alot of trans people have YouTube channels, TikTok, loads of romance/realistic books of trans people on Wattpad.

    FlyFly May 3, 2021 8:36 pm
    Actually to the last one you can. There are alot of underground doctors who perform any illegal surgery (like plastic surgery, along with give hormones to people who want to transition) which is why so many peo... Natsu

    Yes there are ppl that are desperate enough to risk their lives for gender affirming surgeries. I would think they wouldn't have any questions about their gender if they are willing to do that. It is a sad reality and once being trans is more accepted it will be easier for ppl to go to legitimate drs.

    OK so I decided to go back and read that story again and now I'm convinced that the main character is trans but has decided to live as a man. I'll use he since in the story pronouns were never changed.
    In the first chapter page 28 he says "I hate my own body, my arms, my legs, my face, my chest, my lower region. Everything." After he puts on a wig and dress he says "this malaise towords my body has become smaller thanks to this.
    In chapter 12 he says
    "I, as usual am living as a male. I chose to live in this form out of my own will. I feel like some of the distress has been reduced compared to before." There are also a lot of mentions of wanting to be a woman and becoming a woman.

    That is not someone just wanting to wear dresses that is someone feeling dysphoria. A person may be trans and decide not to transition, be it because of society, or the ppl around them. That doesn't make them any less trans.


    I've read stories where the guys present as female but identify as male I don't see them as being trans.
    http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/hi_manyuaru_ren_ai/

    http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/koi_ga_odoru_new_town/

    In these two they never express feeling like a woman or being uncomfortable with their bodies. They say they want to be cute and dressing up like that makes them feel confident. So I never got the impression that they were trans.


    Like I said in my other comment I don't think dresses, makeup or cute things are for any specific gende. Seeing a person wearing a dress, wigs and makeup won't make me automatically think they are female / trans. Just that they are a person wearing clothing.


    There is more trans representation in the media. Not a crazy amount but a lot more than before. I am excited to see trans ppl representation in manga because it a medium I enjoy so I get excited when I see a character that is trans and I want to see good happy stories.

    Ryle July 22, 2021 6:26 am
    http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/kono_koi_ni_mirai_wa_nai/That is the 1st one the 2nd one i dont remember the name at all. FlyFly

    Wait I'm pretty sure that the MC is a trans woman here??? At least that's the impression I got, but then ending was super shitty cuz it made it seem like the MC would never live happy as a trans woman cuz they would never "pass" or smth

    FlyFly July 23, 2021 12:30 am
    Wait I'm pretty sure that the MC is a trans woman here??? At least that's the impression I got, but then ending was super shitty cuz it made it seem like the MC would never live happy as a trans woman cuz they ... Ryle

    Yes, when I was first responding I had 1 not read the story completely and 2 dropped it because I didn't think it was about a transwoman. In my later comments I clarify that. I also still used he him because in the story the pronouns were never changed.

    All in all I understand the story, and I get how that could be how some ppl live but I want to see happy trans story's. There aren't that many yet.

    Ryle July 23, 2021 6:12 am
    Yes, when I was first responding I had 1 not read the story completely and 2 dropped it because I didn't think it was about a transwoman. In my later comments I clarify that. I also still used he him because in... FlyFly

    Ye;, same I was suuuuuper disappointed with it