To the people saying it is disappointing how Nakyum falls for this scary Seungho and forge...

cygnus March 14, 2020 8:48 pm

To the people saying it is disappointing how Nakyum falls for this scary Seungho and forgets about what he did to him.Those are totally different times. Treatment like this was on daily basic, human rights-they didn't even know what it was. Rape, killing were common, beating lowborn's ass as well. I'm not saying it is right and Seungho should be forgiven but we ought to take it into account while thinking how can Nakyum fall for him so easily and not be scared to death by his doings. It was terrifying but not as shocking as now. It was common. As for those times Seungho is not treating Nakyum that bad (aside from rape and the beating). He's giving him so much more than he deserves as a lowborn. Even those around him are shocked by it. Btw I bet what Nakyum feels for him is not love but his hidden lust. It's still too early for love. Seungho is the first person who accepts him the way he is and no wonder he is somehow getting aroused by the unknown feeling. It's so hard for him to admit that he may like it, he wants to run away from it but we can tell that just by looking at his expressions that deep down he's curious. And I think it's not only the medicine's doing

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    HowDidIGetHere March 15, 2020 12:57 am
    No I don't agree. People still rebelled. Nakyum tried to run away. You try to simplify things. Abuse cause changes in brain. Now and THEN. Sorry to break it to you. Think about all big revolutions.We are not t... AsaNisaMasa

    sorry but i feel like butting in. hidden emotions, ok. yeah people rebelled. but a large part of every society no matter the era is conditioned to follow said society's rules. physical pain can lead to hate, depression etc. but what's important is keeping in mind that what we reffer to as 'abuse' today (rape, being beaten by your master) was not the same thing in the past, it was just how life went. (there is an exact sociological term for this which i can't remember right now, but it is also the reason african slaves remained unrebellious for a long time). even today there are cultures which for example practice unconsensual body mutialtion, which leaves severly less damage on the mental state of people living in those culture, than it would if it happened to someone living in modern western culture. so what cygnus is saying is perfectly sensible. NK is hurt, but we are probably much more appaled at Seungho than he is. therefore developing positive emotions for Seungho (even though I don't think that has happened at this point) is much more likely. :)

    cygnus March 15, 2020 12:57 am
    No I don't agree. People still rebelled. Nakyum tried to run away. You try to simplify things. Abuse cause changes in brain. Now and THEN. Sorry to break it to you. Think about all big revolutions.We are not t... AsaNisaMasa

    If you dont agree then what's your point, man... You clearly dont understand the story and the history in general but that's not my job to teach you about this. Sorry to break it to you. Obviously there are hidden feelings but as it states - they are hidden. No one cares about them since life was cruel and they had more important matters to care about. Nakyum hated Seungho but it doesn't change the fact that he has to deal with him and act as if nothing happened. But it doesn't mean he cant fall in love with him, even thought it would take some time. Now as you said, the talk is pointless so I just wish you a goodnight and a good lesson about history

    AsaNisaMasa March 15, 2020 12:59 am
    sorry but i feel like butting in. hidden emotions, ok. yeah people rebelled. but a large part of every society no matter the era is conditioned to follow said society's rules. physical pain can lead to hate, de... HowDidIGetHere

    For me the whole scenery is just an excuse for typical, boring from rape to love trope ;)

    HowDidIGetHere March 15, 2020 1:01 am
    For me the whole scenery is just an excuse for typical, boring from rape to love trope ;) AsaNisaMasa

    even a shitty trope like that can be complex and intresting to read without being romanticised. if it bores you dont read it. ok?

    AsaNisaMasa March 15, 2020 1:01 am
    If you dont agree then what's your point, man... You clearly dont understand the story and the history in general but that's not my job to teach you about this. Sorry to break it to you. Obviously there are hid... cygnus

    You got me some completely random example from history which matched out cases....only in aspect it was in past and there were two men involved.and it was in past.
    - NK and the guy have are in different age which is important
    - nowhere was said that the guy was beated or nearly killed... Like Nk

    AsaNisaMasa March 15, 2020 1:06 am
    sorry but i feel like butting in. hidden emotions, ok. yeah people rebelled. but a large part of every society no matter the era is conditioned to follow said society's rules. physical pain can lead to hate, de... HowDidIGetHere

    But NK isn't even a slave...and it looks like he was raised in peaceful environment so he most likely only heard about such things. So he SHOULDN'T be so immune. It should leave some impact on him. I don't see reason why he would fall for men who nearly cause his death,took his freedom, beated him and raped him.

    AsaNisaMasa March 15, 2020 1:09 am
    If you dont agree then what's your point, man... You clearly dont understand the story and the history in general but that's not my job to teach you about this. Sorry to break it to you. Obviously there are hid... cygnus

    OMFG. I understand history perfectly with all rules, mentality etc but I don't agree that when someone had peaceful life and it was suddenly taken by some persons and that person beated himz raped him and nearly killed him...and he would fall in love. For me it would be just copying mechanism. And I won't change my mind. It's cliché and unrealistic to me.

    HowDidIGetHere March 15, 2020 1:13 am
    But NK isn't even a slave...and it looks like he was raised in peaceful environment so he most likely only heard about such things. So he SHOULDN'T be so immune. It should leave some impact on him. I don't see ... AsaNisaMasa

    if you live in a society you are conditioned, he is a lowborn in a society that treats lowborns not good. i cannot explain this in a more simpler manner so I'm not responding anymore. sorry and byee :)

    AsaNisaMasa March 15, 2020 1:17 am
    if you live in a society you are conditioned, he is a lowborn in a society that treats lowborns not good. i cannot explain this in a more simpler manner so I'm not responding anymore. sorry and byee :) HowDidIGetHere

    I love all of your patronising tone. I understand he was lowborn. But lowborn still had more rights than slave. But forget about this aspect.

    AsaNisaMasa March 15, 2020 1:19 am
    if you live in a society you are conditioned, he is a lowborn in a society that treats lowborns not good. i cannot explain this in a more simpler manner so I'm not responding anymore. sorry and byee :) HowDidIGetHere

    It was shown he lived peacefully and everything was taken from here...but he will fal for someone who caused him all this pain. Because... He is just a lowborn and he already accepted that. Even nearly dying. But he will fall for SH... Because he is handsome... And they have good sex. Ok

    AsaNisaMasa March 15, 2020 1:27 am
    if you live in a society you are conditioned, he is a lowborn in a society that treats lowborns not good. i cannot explain this in a more simpler manner so I'm not responding anymore. sorry and byee :) HowDidIGetHere

    And tbh Nakyum's especially doesn't live according to say rules. He tried to run away... He didn't want to have sex with SH. He was fighting him non stop only stopped because of his beloved teacher.

    CiRCE68 March 15, 2020 3:32 am
    OMFG. I understand history perfectly with all rules, mentality etc but I don't agree that when someone had peaceful life and it was suddenly taken by some persons and that person beated himz raped him and nearl... AsaNisaMasa

    First of all, all people tagging NK as “innocent” or “impeccable” is stupid, it has been clearly shown in the story that NK is not mentally OK. He’s a sexual repressive, who was also physically and mentally mistreated by Sir Inhun, that consequently, NK is in love with him. Sir IH aggressions might not have looked as severe as Seunho’s, but the degree of severe doesn’t matter, at the end, both have mistreated him. Now with all this said, it would make sense that someone as NK would fall in love with SH, although he tried to denied in this chapter, blaming it on the medicinal infusions. This times were so old, and people had so stupid beliefs, but that’s how it was, why do u think there’s people still getting beating up but hiding it’s aggressions and the aggressor? Why do u think people followed Hitler?
    This story takes place centuries ago, society at those times didn’t think as we do now days.
    Most importantly, wouldn’t you think this would be romanticized? Not saying because that’s how every story works, but you can scroll through the comments and see for yourself that no one is looking for moralistic-fable-story, if you don’t like what ur reading because u consider it below ur expectations, you can always stop reading.

    AsaNisaMasa March 15, 2020 9:56 am
    First of all, all people tagging NK as “innocent” or “impeccable” is stupid, it has been clearly shown in the story that NK is not mentally OK. He’s a sexual repressive, who was also physically and me... CiRCE68

    People followed Hitler (mostly farmers and middle class) because of the poor economical state of Germany after 1 world war? That was the main reason...