WTF I don't like this MC, he's not being reasonable, it was very clear that ogre Chappi WA...

MsEpic February 8, 2020 11:33 am

WTF I don't like this MC, he's not being reasonable, it was very clear that ogre Chappi WAS trying to kill them, making him the instigator. And yeah, the bearded guy said something unsavory, but he still attacks them unprovoked. All Drake did was retaliate in self-defense and it was clear Drake 'thought' he was protecting the elf village from a dangerous monster. From a third party view, the Orge had it coming and the humans had every right to defend themselves. To bad Drake got killed, he was the only member that was decent. So fuck this Mc for being less understanding.

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    Grital February 9, 2020 10:06 pm

    ... sorry, but a perverted guy makes a disgusting look and obvious unsavoury remark towards your daughter- do you not get mad and consider slugging him? Or do you just watch and wait for something despicable to happen so that you ‘morally right’ and ‘reasonable’.

    Course I know this wasn’t the situation (⌒▽⌒) but I felt this was an accurate example that you might be able to understand better.

    Also I think it’s appropriate to take their words “were just protecting you from that monster, don’t worry your safe now” or something like that, to be very sarcastic, as in -‘yeah don’t worry your pretty little moneybag heads about it, we wouldn’t let a huge potential profit get damaged’

    Also I think the reason the author has only made them mildly unappealing, so that you can still side with them like this, is because they were gearing up to have the king seem the absolute worst and might even have them come back in as decent people who regret what they were going to do

    MsEpic February 10, 2020 12:05 am

    So one person in your group says something, now the entire group deserves to be killed? Drake doesn't seem like the guy who'd allow that to happen. Whatever just looking from their perspective, if a monster comes charging at you and was about kill you, your instincts to protect yourself is automatic, if you had training and power, of course, you kill it as quickly as possible. It was act of self-defense. My point at least find out if the adventurers are truly evil before killing them off, the whole could be a misunderstanding for all he knew.

    MsEpic February 10, 2020 12:07 am
    ... sorry, but a perverted guy makes a disgusting look and obvious unsavoury remark towards your daughter- do you not get mad and consider slugging him? Or do you just watch and wait for something despicable to... Grital

    Oh and the king totally deserve to be wiped out.

    Grital February 10, 2020 12:24 am
    So one person in your group says something, now the entire group deserves to be killed? Drake doesn't seem like the guy who'd allow that to happen. Whatever just looking from their perspective, if a monster com... MsEpic

    Then you normally kill people when they for apparently ‘no reason’ come charging at you?

    MsEpic February 10, 2020 12:54 am
    Then you normally kill people when they for apparently ‘no reason’ come charging at you? Grital

    If I feel like my life is at risk, yes. That's how self-defense works if someone charges at you for apparently no reason and feel like your life is at risk, then you have every right to kill that sucker dead. You won't even get arrested for it if you can prove it was self-defense.
    What are you like 10 years old? I feel like I'm talking to someone with no real-life experience.

    Grital February 10, 2020 8:11 am
    If I feel like my life is at risk, yes. That's how self-defense works if someone charges at you for apparently no reason and feel like your life is at risk, then you have every right to kill that sucker dead. Y... MsEpic

    Oh really, well that’s fine, but as you clearly pointed out earlier, he had the power to ‘defend’ him self, so obviously could have done so with out killing him in one hit, he was strong enough that he could have held back without worrying for his life.
    And if your going to bring up self defence then at least know why that kind of legislation was created - killing is NEVER justified, your still a murder, the reason that killing in self defence isn’t as punishable by law is because when in extreme cases of danger it’s not your fault that your mind can’t act logically so that you end up killing the assailant. Or your so desperate and weak that that’s the only way to deal with them.
    Do any of those situations fit what happened? Mr 12yr old?

    MsEpic February 10, 2020 9:00 am
    Oh really, well that’s fine, but as you clearly pointed out earlier, he had the power to ‘defend’ him self, so obviously could have done so with out killing him in one hit, he was strong enough that he co... Grital

    Are you kidding me, Chappi was possibly going to Kill them over some words, and the same can be said about the MC but I guess it's ok to kill someone for revenge like what MC did.

    I agree, killing is never justified (I never said it was) even in self-defense or to avenge someone like what the MC did, as you said, you'll still be a murderer and make you look desperate and week. He didn't have to kill Drake but he did. He should've to beat the shit out of them to near death and explain that the monsters are his friends and this village is under his protection then send them off. And then realize chappi is alive because he's a necromancer for reason.

    PS I'm a girl.

    Grital February 10, 2020 4:12 pm
    Are you kidding me, Chappi was possibly going to Kill them over some words, and the same can be said about the MC but I guess it's ok to kill someone for revenge like what MC did. I agree, killing is never jus... MsEpic

    Ahah sorry, I was wondering why you added the ps note in but I actually was assuming you were already, since the majority of the people here are, I would just have used the Mr part for anyone.
    Yeah I’m going to give up now because I’d rather read more manga than argue more on this sooooooo
    Thx for the good discussion... kinda (≧∀≦) ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    ChibaChan February 25, 2020 7:55 am
    If I feel like my life is at risk, yes. That's how self-defense works if someone charges at you for apparently no reason and feel like your life is at risk, then you have every right to kill that sucker dead. Y... MsEpic

    Um no you have no right to kill them dead you have the right to use just and equal force back...at least thats the law here, like say someone charges you with their bare hands and you pull out a machine gun...that not self defense that overkill. Also...its pretty obvious they are all crazy arrogant and stupid heroes that are deserving of what they got, i mean...come on they killed first are you saying you wouldn't go crazy nuts on people if you saw they killed a beloved pet?

    ChibaChan February 25, 2020 7:59 am
    Are you kidding me, Chappi was possibly going to Kill them over some words, and the same can be said about the MC but I guess it's ok to kill someone for revenge like what MC did. I agree, killing is never jus... MsEpic

    Also he wasn't killing him over 'some words' as had already been explained in the manga, humans kidnapped elves for slavery (with little hidden agenda of sexual slavery) they treated all demi humans as slaves so like...the first thing some giant powerful s rank adventurer says is that and you expect them a HIDDEN ELVIN VILLAGE to think that they shouldn't protect themselves?

    Also...almost everything you are saying here is completely blown apart by the fact that this is not a word that revolves around modern world logic, so killing is justified and yes he did have to beat him to death and now the entire village could be wiped out because he didn't kill the other two so...like mute point aye.

    MsEpic February 25, 2020 10:26 pm
    Also he wasn't killing him over 'some words' as had already been explained in the manga, humans kidnapped elves for slavery (with little hidden agenda of sexual slavery) they treated all demi humans as slaves s... ChibaChan

    Fuck this manga I don't care anymore.

    NV02 May 3, 2020 4:51 pm
    Also he wasn't killing him over 'some words' as had already been explained in the manga, humans kidnapped elves for slavery (with little hidden agenda of sexual slavery) they treated all demi humans as slaves s... ChibaChan

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