To those people supporting Claude Forever: Bruh, it's exactly because you're an illegal re...

2seung February 3, 2020 3:24 pm

To those people supporting Claude Forever: Bruh, it's exactly because you're an illegal reader that you should NOT support sniping. If this sniper gets their work sniped, you think they will continue? Obviously not, they aren't paid to translate. They'd get mad because what for are they translating if they get sniped? It'll just be a cycle, and translators will eventually stop.

Let me make this clear, you, the illegal reader, is the one who benefits most from preventing sniping.

Responses
    BongoCat January 16, 2020 2:20 pm

    if the sniper gets sniped, we will just follow the sniper of the sniper. Its not rocket science. In fact I will even translate lmao. U need to be a special kind of snowflake to think you own the intellectual property to have any say in it or whine. Dont do it if you dont want to. There will always be someone translating. Im getting tired of all the discord rabbit holes and scanlation wars. It doesnt have to be mega fast, but I will get sick of the group if they scanlate like grandmas and expect the readers to think thats normal. If it is already translated officially, I understand, it promotes readers to go pay and read officially. But if its only found in raws, its infuriating. Literally typing korean or spanish using google translate is much faster than this. Its pretty pathetic that all the fast scanlators are relegated to translating hundreds of chapters of shitty works because all the popular ones hog the good series so that they wont lose popularity. They get mad at any other scanlation site and never update for months and when they get too much demand they sheepishly go Sorry, Not my problem, Dropped, my dog died so i cant, my grandma died so i cant, pls wait for someone else to pick it up now that every other scanlator has moved on and its unlikely to be continued. If you dont want to be sniped, then balance your workload and dont hog. Its pretty clear from the many fast scanlations that there is clearly a workforce willing to scanlate raws FAST for works with no official english translation. Even Sawateam steal True Beauty even tho u can just literally go webtoon and read for free. Its just that its not utilised well because of all the hogging and popularity politics.

    BongoCat January 16, 2020 2:24 pm

    Its not like we rely solely on illegal reading to read manga. Scanlations are just indicator to whether the story is good enough to read more officially when the official translations are out.

    To thos screaming that these scanlations arent good quality. Look
    no one is going to have an orgasm over proper grammar while reading. we just want to know the story enough to see if the story is good enough to support on actual site.

    BongoCat January 16, 2020 2:47 pm

    Many well known scans, even sawateam now is not free from using slow translations to coerce readers to donate to them. Even buying mangadex is still illegal asking of money. Its bullshit. They dont own it. Why are they bitching and taking money. If you cant do it, give it to someone who can and is willing to. Why should we understand You not being able to do something but Hogging it so that no one else can benefit at the readers expense. When will you kids learn that its not your right to demand money to keep doing something that doesnt belong to you. If u wanna making money with manhwa, then DRAW your own Manhwa. Seriously, all this DRAMA is because well known scan site is TRIGGERED that their illegal money flow is threatened by another site. Go away scanlation trolls

    Remember a time when mangago was great without these hoes bitching like they some multimillionaire company and hog till we pay for work they didnt make and translation that the author never asked for. remember a time where waiting for work doesnt require you to kiss up to thieves and wait for them to feel better, pamper them until they feel like it. when literally the same work can be done by someone more willing and able to.

    remember kids

    Sniping *clap* doesnt exist *clap* If it *clap* NOT your *clap* fucking damn *clap* WORK.

    Its a dog eat dog world, and works should just go to whoever can do it better

    Starsandmetaphors January 16, 2020 8:16 pm

    You're being extra as hell, to the point that I'm wondering how old you are. This isn't some business anyone gets to profit from. If the 'original group' drops it, someone will pick it up. Might take a while, but where's the surprise in that? We don't deserve nor should expect anything else, and it's naive of you to assume that by shielding one robber we'll somehow be rewarded for it. It's even more naive of you to assume it wouldn't be dropped regardless of whether it's been ''sniped'' when groups drop works all the time for even less.

    They're acting so damn entitled too, and it's honestly annoying to see them trying to rile everyone up to their side when what they're doing is illegal ("Don't share on insta" - yeah, 'cause you're afraid the author's going to see it, but damn it all if someone else wants to do the same illegal shit you're doing.)

    BongoCat January 17, 2020 2:58 pm
    You're being extra as hell, to the point that I'm wondering how old you are. This isn't some business anyone gets to profit from. If the 'original group' drops it, someone will pick it up. Might take a while, b... Starsandmetaphors

    exactly. I bet all the likes are just the scanlation group people coming here to make it look like they are in favor.

    2seung January 18, 2020 7:49 am
    if the sniper gets sniped, we will just follow the sniper of the sniper. Its not rocket science. In fact I will even translate lmao. U need to be a special kind of snowflake to think you own the intellectual pr... BongoCat

    Calm down, dude. You’re railing your head off as an illegal reader and it just emphasised how entitled you are. Not that I’m expecting much from you as an illegal reader, but doing one thing wrong doesn’t mean you gotta act like it’s an apocalyptic world with no rules. Don’t get mad just because I explained what will happen—and it will. Look, if I went ahead and start translating even worse than Claude Forever’s google translate skills, using Bing and Comic Sans without cleaning, but I was faster, would you be happy? No, right? Use your brains.

    We’re not talking scanlations that are dropped but people refuse to let it go, I think you’re being way too dramatic and having some victim mentality going on there. DNA scans offers more quality translations and they aren’t that slow. You’re fine with Claude Forever’s poor translations because they’re fast, but I could be faster, right, sweetie? With my google translate and copy paste without cleaning. Then I believe Claude Forever’s going to stop too, right? Let’s not pretend that he/she wants attention and validation, otherwise they’d just translate on their own despite what DNA scans say. Claude Forever would be upset because mangago accepts my chapters over theirs since I’m faster, and stop. Do you see now the easy logic behind all of this?

    2seung January 18, 2020 8:04 am
    You're being extra as hell, to the point that I'm wondering how old you are. This isn't some business anyone gets to profit from. If the 'original group' drops it, someone will pick it up. Might take a while, b... Starsandmetaphors

    Hey kiddo, calm down. Take a step back. I know you’re not used to people having different opinions, but logic is logic. Honestly I’m not sure why you’re having such a hard time understanding, it’s quite likely you are part of that Claude Forever team or you have some weak mindset that because you support illegal translations, then RAAAAA IT’S A LAND OF NO LOGIC AND RULES LET BURN TOGETHER!!! You’re like the kind of slow person who thinks that a thief deserves to get beaten to death because BaD iS bAd, gOod iS gOod, nO iN bEtWeen.

    I’m going to put it super simply for you since you’re getting so riled up. Try your best to at least put aside your emotions to understand instead of getting mad that someone has a different opinion.

    I will soon translate this manga with google translate and poor cleaning. Mangago is going to accept it anyway because I’m faster than Claude Forever. Claude Forever will be mad, lbr, they want attention and validation which is why they’re sniping in the first place. They’ll stop, and then you’ll be left with shittier translation than their poor translations. Do you see what will happen if that happens for all scanlations? You seem to not realize that. It’s not as if DNA scans has been dead for 2 years and won’t let go. They’re still updating. You not caring about the group motivates the scanlation group to stop once and for all, since they’re not paid and readers really don’t care about them in the least. That means fewer translations overall. Understand?

    We’re not talking about morality here, alright, kiddo? It’s just about what works logically. You’re so odd. If you want to get so angsty about DNA scans being entitled, looking in the mirror. I think you’re probably the most entitled person here of all. The funny thing is that you are an illegal reader getting riled up at the people helping you as an illegal reader. (And before Miss RARARA comes yelling at me, I actually buy raws.)

    Starsandmetaphors January 18, 2020 8:33 am
    Hey kiddo, calm down. Take a step back. I know you’re not used to people having different opinions, but logic is logic. Honestly I’m not sure why you’re having such a hard time understanding, it’s quite... 2seung

    Yeah, lol, you really shouldn't be calling anyone a kid. My life does not revolve around comics, so if you want to mess around with the translations, be my guest? If you've got that kind of free time, then have you not just proven how young and immature you are? Like, do you even re-read what you're saying or think it through? What's with this passive agressive stance you've got going on. 'You're not used to people having different opinions'? Did you really type that out and then lose your mind on me for having an opinion different than yours? That's irony at it's finest. It's because I'm used to different opinions that I share my own. The whole point of having a comment section is so that people can share their opinions even if it's a disagreement. So I guess I should be telling you to calm down?

    You seem to be mistaken. The last thing I'm getting riled up about is the fact that people are translating illegal, lmao. The whole point is that I don't get how anyone who is doing this illegally thinks they have a right to complain about other people translating work, they don't own, illegally too. That's not me being entitled, that's me pointing out the hypocrisy in their statement. The fact that you can't understand the difference not only makes me wonder about your age--again--but also your intelligence level. Side note: I only essentially called you stupid here, because you called other people dumb. What I just did was point out the irony. I also felt like I had to explain this, since you seem to lack basic comprehension skills judging from your reply :D.

    BongoCat January 18, 2020 4:58 pm
    Yeah, lol, you really shouldn't be calling anyone a kid. My life does not revolve around comics, so if you want to mess around with the translations, be my guest? If you've got that kind of free time, then have... Starsandmetaphors

    fully agreed. buying raws but still translating it to others is still illegal. Even I buy raws or read on official website. the only thing i use mangago is to discover new stories and see if they are worth it or not, or if they are only in language i cant read. Remember the time where scan sites are just informal sharing of manga that someone really wanted everyone to read. and the official announcements are recruitment ads. Now everything is going out of hand, and theres war everywhere when theres the slightest agitation and everyone gets dragged in. While I agree that good translation is great, Ive tried google translate and anyone can just use their knowledge of english to correct the google translations and write it in. Ive seen examples of it where they just added the english text below the korean. Furthermore, unlike mangas where each page is a shit ton of words and clean us, manhwas are very straight forward and much much muchhh shorter . Which makes me wonder why it takes eternity to translate unless the scanlation site just overbook themselves with too many translation works and the old ones take a back seat in this struggle to get good works and get popular. And if someone tries to take it off their hands because face it, no one likes to wait 3 months for a notification out of the blue. There are many stories i have forgotten the title to, because it takes so fucking long for new chapter. and many stories where i got so impatient, i just used my ipad to draw korean characters on google translate and basically inferred the story. I mean, look at all the crappy sexist chinese manhuas with 123 chapters, and u have to wonder what the popular scanlation sites are doing to our favourite stories. the Emperors reincarnation script is already in its 150 chapters in such a short time.

    Unoriginal Artist February 3, 2020 1:33 pm

    I think everyone should chill, sniping isnt extremely good cause i do believe some groups would drop it, even if we as readers get translations faster it will make groups want to give them up, albet that group that snipes might keep going but we also dont need to be going around pissing ppl off and undermining others work when it comes to translation...? I mean if ur working to translate a chapter and someone else comes and does it.... you might be slightly upset to?