THANK YOU. Go off, mum??? Damn
I agree 1000% percent, I so do not understand how someone can call Taku manipulative and possessive while Joowon fucking e x i s t s. Seriously, how delusional can somebody be? You summed it up perfectly.
But I feel like one little thing is missing. You made it sound as if Joowon has only bad intentions, do you really think that?
As much as I hate that guy, I think he actually does care a lot about Haesoo, he is emotionally attached to him. But the way he made everything turn out is just wrong since the very beginning.
He never even tried to find a new love (or real love, whatever you wanna call it), and i think that is very important. they're both simply not made for each other.
I agree that Joowon treats him wrong and they should not be in a relationship. But how can you like Taku? He just used Haesoos illness to fuck him. Haesoo told him he wasn't sure if he wanted to do more and he just ignored it and he did not even stop when he realised that he is unconfortable and stiff. This is even worse and more manipulative than this relationship to Joowon.
No, just no. You don't seem to be capable of comparing what's worse and what's better. That's the only point you have against Taku, while ignoring all the terrible things Joowon has done to Haesoo (the person even listed it).
I don’t believe Joowon has that much of horrible intentions, but I believe he did in the beginning. Again, he wanted to simply play with Haesoo because he was pretty and ended up getting attached. As much as he can care about him now, it still doesn’t justify what he does, even if he doesn’t mean it anyways. It’s still visibly hurting Haesoo.
Joowon needs to move on soon if Haesoo really likes Taku. It’s his turn to let go of the past.
I’m sorry but I don’t feel much pity for Joowon, or anyone who thinks these kinds of actions are justified for whatever reason. They aren’t.
No. Please reread the chapter. Haesoo consented and even asked for more. The only time Haesoo was cautious was because he was concerned TAKU would get his illness, but Taku didn’t mind. I believe Taku kissed him in the first place to assure Haesoo that he loved him, or at least to comfort him. The kiss did get heated and before he touches Haesoo downstairs, he clearly asks him to tell him if hes comfortable or not, and he seems pretty stern about it. Haesoo agrees and says he wants it, clearly turned on as well.
Haesoo’s narration also shows that he really enjoyed it. He was a little dizzy from his fever, but he mentions that he liked that, having no thoughts while sex. He dares to say he enjoyed being sick in that moment.
Once again, Taku succeeds on being a great human being and asking for consent on everything! He did not use his illness at all. Haesoo in fact wanted it!
Nevermimd on some parts of that, when Taku was about to insert he voiced some concern, but there’s some fault on Haesoo’s part as well. He didn’t even finish his sentence. They were too far off as well. Haesoo was already consenting to everything else in the beginning, cut Taku some slack. And in the end, Taku didn’t even get off while penetrating. And where does Haesoo get stiff? I didn’t see that. Either way, at least he didn’t leave him after sex or start getting clothed. It seems he held Haesoo right after that, as Haesoo desired so much.
I don't believe anything can justify his actions either, I just like to keep in mind of someone's intentions are bad or not as thats important to me
What are you talking about he just used Haesoo's illness to have sex? You do realize Haesoo has a mouth and was asked is he wanted to have sex right? And what did he say? I WANT MORE. Yupp he definitely used him. Y'all be some goofy ppl I swear (⊙…⊙ )
I was on the sidelines but Taku is even being drawn hotter than before. Im starting to lean to the Taku x Haesoo team, Im betting the author is too. UNLESS Taku starts getting too possessive? I hope this story lasts a long time.
No, I thought so too the first time reading it but they don't have sex. There's no penetration.
You are right they just got eachother off. But the point I was trying to make was haesoo wasn't getting used. He was given a choice.
1. No. Joowon clearly says that his other relationships won’t work out when he finds out another man drove Haesoo home. Either way, saying “you need me” has the same meaning and intention. It’s awful and demanding.
2. No. Taku doesn’t know about Joowon and Haesoo. Nobody does. They are known to be distant brothers.
3. He wasn’t extremely aggravated?? He didn’t interrogate Haesoo about the caller, he just kissed him to distract him. Joowon is different from this. He got heated about a lighter, forced Haesoo into a BLOWJOB into getting it back. A kiss has less effect. And Taku did trap him at the door, but like you said, Haesoo is awful at voicing his concern. But he’s worse at it with Taku, but it’s evident that he’s been telling Joowon to back off from the start.
4. No. Taku did not give him the sex tape because he wanted sex. He originally gave him the sex tape in order for Haesoo to expose him about it in an article. It’d give the both of them publicity. He gave it as a deal for Haesoo to become his next model. Again, he still doesn’t think of Haesoo as a fucktoy now. He genuinely admires and loves Haesoo for him and his writing. He wants Haesoo to use him however he likes because he just wants a model. It’s a fair deal.
I wouldn’t even go to say that Taku is not an angel. Haesoo is kind of leading him on and giving mixed signals. In the end, you can still see Taku has had good intent from the start and he still treats Haesoo like they are at equal level. Not like Haesoo will die without them. From the very beginning, he’s loved Haesoo for who he is and he still respects a lot of his wishes and asks for consent for majority of the other times. That’s extremely crucial to note because Joowon is quite the opposite.
yes, he always asks for permission.
if you dont bother to read the replies, then why even participating in this conversation? you are so stubborn, the other person is totally in the right.
no. reas their reply and you'll be smarter
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HOW TF DID YOU SCROLL BACK TO DECEMBER 2019
oh okay thank god
Okay. Love me or hate me, no pun intended, Taku is the best guy for Haesoo. I don't understand how a human being can ship Joowon and Haesoo at this point, especially ones who say that Taku is "manipulative" or "sex-hungry". He's neither. That is what Joowon is. Honestly, I think you guys are just horny for some "jerk" "asshole" "tsundere" top. No. This is about what's good for Haesoo.
Joowon is literally shown saying very heavy, touchy, manipulative statements to Haesoo that clearly affect him a lot, as shown the second (?) time he has sex with Taku. Saying things like 'you will never work out with someone else' 'you can't live without me' is awfully strong. Haesoo clearly isn't okay with those statements either. Taku saying 'don't have sex with anyone else, the thought makes me jealous' is sure, a little questionable, but is it really that bad compared to the intention of Joowon's words? Taku doesn't even know about Haesoo and Joowon's relationship and clearly him and Haesoo aren't a one night stand either. Of course he's a little attached to Haesoo now, and their relationship goes far beyond friends. It is reasonable to be jealous.
And is Taku the one getting extremely upset about a simple lighter being in Haesoo's car? Or him talking to another man? Or him being dropped off by another man? If he were to catch Haesoo with these things, can you really imagine Taku getting aggravated about it? No. You can't. He's a sweet guy.
Joowon doesn't ask either. He'll come uninvited to Haesoo's house, he'll say and do questionable things without asking. Taku even asked if it was okay for him to say he was jealous right after. Taku is always asking if Haesoo is comfortable.
Isn't it also a huge red flag on how Joowon and Haesoo came to be? They were literally meant to be step-brothers from the start. They aren't blood-related, sure, but when they first met, they were told they were going to be step-brothers. Just like adoptive siblings, you think of them and feel about them mentally as a sibling. Blood doesn't mean shit. You are siblings.
Joowon was always interested on 'playing' with Haesoo because he was a 'pretty boy'. Kisses him randomly. Encourages him into bad habits, hell, Joowon was the one who even introduced him to smoking. Great job! Giving your sex object potential lung diseases!
Taku thought Haesoo was pretty, sure, but didn't think of anything romantic or sexual from the beginning. He didn't want to 'play' with him. He wanted him as a model, and they grew closer quite quickly, now he's interested in Haesoo himself. Loves his writing, his personality, wants to be there for him whenever he's upset. Gets upset if Leo fucks with him. Taku straight up hugged him and told him everything was okay when Haesoo broke down during sex, I'm sure as hell Joowon wouldn't do shit. Even other people notice how much of an arrogant asshole he can be.
I really don't give a shit if Joowon gets character development and he has a reason to treat Haesoo the way he does, I really don't. Because he has no reason to. I hope they just go back to being brothers and Taku can help him out of his emotional numbness once again, and maybe even lure him out of his writer's block.
Not to mention, Taku is the only other relationship Haesoo has really taken into consideration apparently. Stop shipping your typical toxic, manipulative yaoi ships with an asshole seme just because oooohhhhh angry sex. I wanna see some cute shit with Haesoo being happy with Taku and Taku's past being revealed.