True , I read a lot of bdsm & in most of them they tie up the uke a little for a short amount of time and call it bdsm :/
Ikr?? The manga isn't even that much of a hardcore , the same didn't even use candles, needle etc. Just some basic bdsm equipment yet they say it's tooooo violent , I feel like they haven't seen the real violence
I agree with this!!!!
this is one of my all time favorites! idky people are saying there was no consent but like... if the uke didn't like it he wouldn't have come back to him. it's not even close to stockholme syndrome. he had a choice & the seme valued it.
Safe, sane, consensual. You know what is it? "Holy three" of BDSM. This isn't proper representation of BDSM.
You say "I think he is hinting at the safe word but we see that the uke clearly doesn't use it" but how can he use it when he knows nothing about rules? The important talk about rules (really basic) was in chapter 4.
Uke was drunk when he gave "consent". And btw - acohol and SM play is no no together for normal Masters.
Blood from wounds isn't hardcore?! Whipping can be considered like soft (for some it's hardcore) but blood is far away from soft BDSM.
*alcohol
So why the seme talk about "rules" in chapter 4 and not sooner? And the drunk consent was to seme's "I like it rough". How can he use safe word when they didn't discuss it?
This isn't proper at all. And you tell me to study more? I'm in BDSM relationship few years now with Master who practice it more than 14 years and I know personally various people who has event more experience than my Master and I.
For most people I know is "talk before" important - discuss soft and hard limited, health...
In this you're right whipping is definitely hardcore, when I wrote it I was meaning spanking.
Well, but shibari is part of BDSM. It's the B - bondage and for some people it's also S - submission.
Hm okay. Wanted to know what kind of rough - but not everyone especially if he/she is drunk will assume that the seme talks about BDSM.
In this manga, I just have a problem with seme doing something through drunk consent when uke is STILL drunk. And the next day what happened - it was the first time they saw each other - without discussion or contract.
Experience before contract is normal and I'm okay with it, but I'm missing the discussion about soft and hard limits, safe word... especially when those people don't know each other .
I think you're missing my point.
Uke was drunk when he gave consent and when seme immobilized him - you're saying it's okay immobilize someone who you just met and is drunk?
This is a proper representation of BDSM. In chapter 2 the seme keeps repeating things like "if you want me to stop there is a proper way to do it" and I think he is hinting at the same word but we see that the uke clearly doesn't use it. In a BDSM relationship, it is really important you have trust and limits. Your master knows your body better than you do and knows when something is too much, they have to. If the uke really did not enjoy the BDSM like he says he does multiple times in all chapters, then he would leave and would have never started this relationship.
BDSM gives an enormous amount of pleasure to the right person who has the right master. You can say stop/no more to let yourself believe you're still innocent but if you really wanted it to stop then the safeword would be used. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶