Omegaverse....

i used to reeeeally fucking hate it as a young teen. i still hate the mpreg thing(stupidest fucking idea to exist), but the other stuff is whatever now. im not crazy over it cus of the constant rape, and i guess thats what makes it not for everyone, but there's also which omegaverse manga/comics you read cus tbh some stories are actual crap. but even if you never do get into it, i respect that lmao. a lot of people eat that shit up even tho its kinda stupid lol

Who knows. Maybe you haven't found one with a good plot? There are a lot out there that's just about sex and rape... But, I know that omegaverse isn't for everyone.

this has been asked like a million times. obviously not for everyone. you don't have to force yourself to see what's there in the AU that people like but you can't seem to see. this honestly feels like an excuse to shit on the omegaverse au rather than actually trying to open up to the genre and see the good side of it (because surely it can't be all bad, right?? nAHHHH). start slow if you're serious about wanting to know what's compelling about it. something with just pure fluff with no rape, or hell, a comedy piece that makes fun of the genre while also treating the topic with care.

At first I hated it too. But there are good omegaverses especially those that focus how much of a hell the omegaverse really is. Imagine a world where your pheromones dictates your actions. Yin reality it is hard to keep.order in such a world ruled by desire.

Well that's just me.

But yes there are also a lot of shit omegaverse manga since most of these justify rape because of pheromones. And stuff.

Pheromones is a just there for people to rape each other.
The bond is a way for an omega for be jailed to his alpha
And the society is always toxic

In exchange, men can give birth

Oh and also the fact there are women in omegaverse is so retarded, since an omega is always a women.

Yep, a lot of it reads as horror, rather than an alternative view of a fluffy domestic family. Case in point, Love is an illusion, where Hye is just raped constantly, and as you put it "jailed to his alpha", and people still love their relationship, omfg.

Don't hate it but don't love it as much as i used to more i read the more i found problems, phermones gives an excuse for omegas to sluts/ pitiful victims & alphas to be rapist & Savages. the 'mates' / 'bond' thing makes the couple seem to forced. and the omegas are always too feminine and they're basically women with dicks & no chest.(obviously not all but majority)

So what is the good side of it i wonder ? why the need to turn males into women , i don't get the point. The rape etc points really bother me ( in a manga ) To be honest, i am not at all into fluffy stuff ( boring ). My first fav yaoi was ai no kusabi so ...
I don't need excuses to say it's shit, don't worry. My real question was : Why the need to turn some guys into animals and erase women from the stories ? do some people feel so insecure that unless the guy does not belong to the alpha ( he must be a thing surely ) they can't enjoy a love story ? ( or a sex story whatever )

err rape doesn't really bother me ( in manga ) i mean

Rape doesn't really bother me ( in manga) i mean

I mean I don't hate it, but I feel like omegaverse mangas began to have too much of the similar plots so I got bored with them...although there are wonderful ones out there :))

It does have it's problems, to say the least. As if the only way to imagine a same-sex family, is to exclude the opposite sex from society, and have these A&O roles, which are mainly an excuse for rape. It would be better to see normal representation of same-sex families in places like Japan and South Korea, in manga and webtoons. As you also point out, part of erasing women in omegaverse, also means the "omega" takes that role, and is called bride, wife, mother, and even worse, he has all the sexist stereotypes of women projected on him, like a woman must be submissive to her man, madonna vs whore, goal is to have children and no education or career etc, it's odd that women write these stories, do they think it empowering to see a man, referred to as a woman, and being used as a sex slave?

If you're asking why women aren't in stories... Well, the simplest answer is yaoi. If you're asking why omegaverse even exists at all... It was created in 2010 by some westerner and it just spread like wildfire.

Mpreg is just dumb in the vein of absurdity that gets to a point where you just take it for what it is and move on with your life. The Alpha/Omega/Beta and the "roles" involved I can't stand. All these "omegas" that are portrayed as helpless and needing an "alpha" to do things for them make my blood boil.

I knew this shit is gonna turn into a wankfest about how terrible omegaverses are. All these like-minded kids circle-jerking about how absurd a/o/b is. The fact that you're all stuck with the whole dumbass omegaverse stereotype with helpless omegas, horny alphas, and loooots of rape goes to show how all of you are lagging behind with the times.

But you can't deny that the majority of omegaverse depicts rape, and the other criticisms mentioned. Not all, obviously, but look at a recent webtoon depiction, love is an illusion, it has all of those negative tropes (not sure if lezhin has any more omegaverse). Even in "family" omegaverse, the omega will have usually faced hardship or discrimination, often sexual abuse too.

What, am I gonna be your personal google search now? Go find omegaverses yourself, for fuck's sake. There's like TONS of them without rape/discrimination out there all over the net. Omegaverse is not necessarily a genre found only in a manga/manhwa.

Honestly I love omegaverse. Heats is pretty cool concept. But male pregnancy is so fucking dumb. Like stupidest thing. I like omegaverse only for the heats and the marking thing. And again it's okay to not like a certain concept!

You misread the comment, yes there are omegaverse that don't rely on the problematic tropes, others have already pointed out, and instead show an alternative family set up, but you can't deny that rape normalisation and sexism in omegaverse is rife.

Your argument was MAJORITY of omegaverses and I replied with, "Nah, bitch. You need to read more omegaverses". You're generalizing the AU because all you've seen are a fuck ton of "rape normalisation/sexism". Sexism makes sense though considering that this shit was based off actual animal behavior, particularly with the wolves. The whole point is a hierarchy, but the whole 'rape normalization' is such bullshit, it makes me laugh that you think a lot of omegaverses are like that.