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What- Did we read the same manga?

What the he'll are you talking about? Read the whole thing for fuck's sake!

What the hell are you talking about? Read the whole thing for fuck's sake!

I agree. I made the mistake of listening to people saying I should read it all before judging, but the truth is NOTHING changes. Seme gets his way because he's the same and uke is okay with it because... hell knows why, he just is.

That was no mistake. You're saying you'd judge a book by it's cover. And honestly your example wasn't enough proof. A lot of yaoi mangas out there are "seme gets his way and uke is okay with it" People like you two really need to reflect more. The story is just realistic. You expect actual rl to just have a relationship where everything single thing is fine at first? No. You go through hardships as well. The seme got his way because he didn't give up on the uke. The uke is okay with it because he loves him. It's called love. Try it some time.

No, it is a mistake because I read the whole story and it was horrible. I know many stories are like that and I hate every single one of them. I like stories where people wait for consent. I sometimes forgive stories that start without consent but then characters realize they did something wrong and regret it. There's nothing realistic with picturing manipulative selfish douchebag as romantic. The idea that everything is allowed to get the person you want is as far removed from love as it can possibly be.

Oh. I see. You have in your head that every single love is pure. It's a new year now, being in the LBGT+ community isn't going to be "weird" to most people anymore." If you're not male and you've never experienced something like this I'd say you have no say. But yaoi is fiction, it is meant to satisfy our fujoshi minds. Not everything on yaoi will be real. They are so many straight guys saying being gay is weird and wrong and a gay person would always attack a straight person. Now, yaoi is completely different than rl, picturing a manipulative selfish douchebag as romantic is fine. Because...if you believe in "love" and all that the fact that your love is what can change then isn't such a bad thing. And yes, it is completely realistic because guess what, humans are terrible creatures."The idea that everything is allowed to get the person you want is as far removed from love as it can possibly be." It isn't removed from love, at all. Because you're saying you'd do anything for the person and you just need to prove that to them. Though there is no need to go overboard. Smh, I keep looking at your first line and it's really bothering me. It was not a mistake. You just read this and saw it as horrible. But yet you still have the time to stay on its' page and prove some useless point. Like I said, it was no mistake. Unless you really are one of those people who judges a person by looks. I honestly couldn't care less about your opinion but the fact that you don't like the manga and actually had the audacity to just comment immature stuff about it annoyed me. Unless you can sit down, and write a better story while being famous and getting all insecure because your fans are rushing you, don't just be that person who judges the book by its' cover. I personally write for fun and I've showed my friends some of my stories, they always rush me and because I just want to hear their comments I end up rushing my story and when I read it over I absolutely hate it. So seriously, it's not that I'm telling you that having your own opinion is wrong or anything, but if you don't like something don't comment stuff like that on it. Your telling other people it's "horrible" but other people aren't you. They are entirely different because I definitely enjoyed this manga. The only thing I hate was the uke's boss because he just went along with everything that happened.

I never thought there's anything weird in LGBT+ but if you claim there's a letter in there for non-consensual then I guess I should abord ship. I mean, honestly, what are you even talking about? What's your point? You say I can have my opinion but I can't voice it? Why? I never said anything wrong about people who have a particular kink that makes stories like that enjoyable. I just want all those who are into different kind of things to be fairly warned that this story is not for them. I wish someone did it for me. You say yaoi exists to satisfy fujoshi's mind. I agree. And I'm a fujoshi. And this doesn't satisfy me. You can throw a tantrum as much as you want but it remains a fact. Yes, other people aren't me. They aren't you either. So my opinion and your opinion is equally valid. Other people are different in their tastes just like you and me obviously are. So I can't understand what exactly makes you so sure you have the right to say whatever crap you want and I'm not allowed to.

obviously I meant "abandon ship" not "abord", sorry.

Damn, you said I'm throwing a tantrum and here you are insulting my opinion. Like i said to your other comment. You do whatever. Just don't go around telling commenting nasty stuff on books so people avoid it when they could also enjoy it. Because they are some people who would rather listen to the review other than looking at the item.
My point was there is nothing wrong with the way the seme was. The are tones of omegaverse were instead of something like this were the uke actually has a little consent, the omega has none whatsoever and it just turns into actual rape involving blood and people like you would see that as better. Whatever man ლ(´ڡ`ლ) When it goes to LGBT+ related stuff I don't back down until I've had my say and made it clear, if this isn't clear instead for you. That officially doesn't bother me anymore. (⌒▽⌒) Have a new day! (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Saying "do whatever, just don't XXX" isn't very consistent, you know. Just proves how illogical of a person you are. Am I telling you not to praise this stuff? No, I don't. Enjoy it to your heart's content and tell all the world about it if you want to. So be mature and acknowledge I can do the same. Telling someone they can have an opinion as long as they keep it to themselves isn't much different from telling people they can't have an opinion. You're like those shitty people who tell it's ok to be gay as long as you "don't flaunt it". Grow up. And bye.

Oof, grow up? Okay homophobic person

Honestly. If anyone, the uke is the villain in this manga lmao

Bro wait for consent? This wasnt a dude he picked up at a bar. This was someone in the sex industry who was quite frankly, super rude to this customer from the get go. You cant advertise sex as a commodity, try to take advantage of someone, and then get mad when they want their money's worth. He was never violent or unkind with the uke, but the uke just refused him because he didnt like him at first. Basically saying yeah I'm here to have sex with anyone but not you lol. How rude. He reaps what he sows imo. He could have quit and gotten another job in the sex industry if it was that important to him but no, the benefits were too good. But not good enough to be polite to the customer right? Sorry that you try to scam someone out of their money and then when they pay and you still say no and say just take your money back you're thinking what? It's his fault somehow? I'd complain to the manager too if someone I was paying to have sex with me was so rude and treated me in such a way. He has no one to blame but himself. Sorry not sorry.

I think you don't understand what host is.
Also, refusing an offer, either romantic or professional, because you don't like the other party is a perfectly fine and reasonable thing to do. And when the other party cannot understand the word "no" being rude is perfectly fine too. I'm shocked you see it this way, I was frustrated with the uke all the time for not being MORE rude. But well, this is how it is in bad yaoi manga, uke just submits to the seme despite not wanting it and then he starts wanting it because they're the uke and seme of the story and they're supposed to be together and author couldn't think of a better story.

Erm, I don't think you understand how hosts works
For a job like being a host, some of them you need to sign a contract agreeing that you'd let a customer do whatever they please to you.
But relax broski.
Stop focusing on this single comment and go read other mangas and have fun.

Well, I can agree with you on this one :)

I know what a host is. I also know what a prostitute is. The uke was both.
You're right. He absolutely could have turned down the offer. But he didnt did he? He instead, asked for a ridiculous amount of money in return for his services, in an action to humiliate him when he couldnt pay up. Well he did pay up. THEN he basically says, "sorry, I know my job is having sex for money, but not when its YOU". Which is rude behavior honestly. That is behavior a customer should be allowed to complain about to a manager. This is a business. You pay for X, you should get X. When you don't, you should be allowed to complain. Well the uke didnt want him going to the manager. That's on him. Shouldn't have tried to humiliate him by asking for an exorbitant amount of money. So he ended up sleeping with him. Seems like an equally fitting end to this situation as would be letting him talk to the manager.