Hate Love

did you read where I said its not about the manga anymore?? I don't know what morals you were taught, but I know what were taught in America, which is where it shows youre from. and we very implicitly are taught a drunken state doesn't give consent, especially when said party is hallucinating its someone else. I really don't care what you read so don't poor pity me, shes picking on me. that scene is very clearly sex without consent. even if seungho handled him carefully, or nakyum got an erection and came. I don't know if youre stubborn or don't understand what consent is. I don't know where other readers are from and what theyre taught. but I know what were taught as americans to fight against our country having a rape culture. and if you want to debate seunghos ability to understand consent, go on toonkor, find potn, and look at the imagery for the last chapter they uploaded. they are complex characters and I am sticking with it. for someone who can draw so beautifully, especially expressions, I'm really hoping, that somehow the artist pulls it all together so seungho becomes redeemable and understanding and poor nakyum gets a happy ending. even if its with seungho, so long as he knows better at the end.

yeah b alex is a world away from potn. but there is a big difference between alex (been a while so I cant remember real name), and seungho. I read yaoi knowing there very possibly could be a rape trope. unfortunately it probably occurs more in the yaoi genre than others because people still don't think a man can become as impacted from rape or assault as women.but by reading its not sanctioning rape or thinking its normal for a person to go off with their attacker. which unfortunately a lot of adult rships where theres physical assault theres also sexual abuse. we also don't know the ages, the morals theyre taught, or the laws of the country of the person were disagreeing with. idk. I don't really like webtoons. ive been reading yaoi for about 8 yrs so ive pretty much worked my way thru most that appeal to me. Im also a binge reader. read b alex after it was finished in 2 days. so the idea of waiting for a webtoon to take maybe 2 yrs to finish is frustrating, but its what theyre pushing. so I re read older ones or if the yaoi has been dark, I have several authors who write yaoi but do it very much tongue in cheek. what worries me is not what someone chooses to read or whether they liked it. its that looking at it from a human standpoint that they refuse to admit that theres blatant f@@@ery that has happened. makes me wonder if they have the same skewed view in real life. but yaoi is mostly dramatic. so unfortunately the toxicity and abuse levels can run high.

Agree. I think we all know that yaoi is often complicit in normalising sexual crimes, but as readers we should at least be able to discern that we are reading fictional portrayals of abuse, and how this has been portrayed awfully. There is a lot of double standards, people will forgive and forget (or not even recognise abuse) if the criminal is billed as the love interest, and yet if the "bad guy" character does the exact same, then he is slated.
Recently, there has been a discussion, over consent, when characters are basically black out drunk, saying that because the character expressed interest in the other mc previously, well it can't be rape! Maybe people would change their mind, if publishers like lezhin had a more representative method of disclaiming crimes, and actually show that not only webtoons billed as horror, psychological etc are fitting of a warning, meaning people can have informed consent as to weather they want to read a "romance" webtoon, that depicts such crimes.