Main character has been a giant douchebag through the Manga-first thing he did was murder a guy for virtually no reason, then kidnapped the painter. The painter is a literal prisoner there under threat, from first 20 pages onwards.
It was evident from first chapter what kind of Manga this would be.
I get that people don't like rape but it's like watching Games of Thrones and saying same thing. It's part of a messed up story, and, honestly, you have to go through murder, kidnapping, threat, blackmail, harassment, abuse to get to the rape part.
Rape is just ONE of quite a few fucked up things MC is doing.
It isn't even shown as something romantic, as you can clearly see painter can't recognise who he's with (in creepy, blurred portraits) and the potryal when the Lord tells a servant to close the doors is just creepy (if there is one thing this artist is good at, it's expressions)
Not to mention painter cries, is afraid and in pain for a good while.
Rape is a problem in stories where it is shown as basically a pusher confession, that leads to a happy relationship, like in a lot of yaois, where "I came" = "wasn't rape",
but this is not on of these stories.
Agree, totally
i read about half of it, skimmed through a good bit of it, and found that you probably did the same to my comment because you were clinging to certain aspects of my comment due to you feeling like you were under attack. you absolutely did not read my comment in full because you're derailing the discussion and making false equivalences like i said in the comment i made above this one. i said at the very bottom of this original post that if you want to make a comment being defensive instead of having a conversation, then don't waste ur breath and my time. you did exactly that. you can't read and your reading comprehension is poor, so i won't be engaging with you anymore and am only responding in order for you to understand why i'm not considering any of your words. have a great day/evening/night/wherever you are!
yeah, i'm fully not saying that the lord wasn't a bad person prior to these chapters, hence why i used the word "accent", nor am i saying that i'm surprised that the rape is there or that this is the first time it's happened in a story like this (though it still warranted a warning). i suppose my personal qualm with the scene itself is simply how it was depicted? having it be "creepy" isn't really enough if you're trying to depict a literal rape scene. rape isn't just unnerving, it's horrific, and i felt that it should've been showcased in a different way. i'm just hoping that this rape scene will actually have an impact on the story and how the main characters interact with each other, instead of it being a segway into how they develop their relationship.
anyways though, that wasn't the point of my comment. i wanted to talk about why there was a sea of people rushing to defend why they thought it was hot by making up reasons that don't make sense and aren't consistent. i made a different comment above this one because i had a feeling that i should address the people thinking that because people are criticizing the fan interaction with the scene and the story itself, then they're saying that no one should get to enjoy the story at all. YOU understand the weight of the story and the fact that there's not an inkling of romance to be had between these two characters in a story like this. a lot of other people are here because they want romance where it's not supposed to be when there are thousands of other stories that are designed for that.
"this is just fiction, it's not even real."
babe come up with whatever reasons u want to justify why u enjoyed a rape scene, but at least have it make a bit of sense. fiction and all forms of media DO impact the way we view the world, other people, and social structures and circumstances. if it didn't then literature would not be taught in school and would be extremely unimportant, and representation in any media would be null and void, if fiction has no bearing on how something in an "imaginary scenario" translates to a person when they face that same situation in reality. do u know how many straight girls i've seen on this platform and several others admit that they were homophobic before they started reading yaoi, give me a break...
i can't even fully blame all of u for trying to defend why u enjoyed a rape scene because it wasn't framed as though it was rape. it was drawn and written to be passionate and dramatic and erotic, but had this been drawn in a different manner with the seriousness it warrants, everyone would be more ready to admit that the last two chapters are terrifying and that they accent how awful the lord is to the painter and to other people in general. if u were to hear someone lay out this exact situation without context or imagery or pretty words, it'd be uncomfortable. if it had been u in the painter's position, being so drunk that u can't discern faces and finding out that u consented to having sex with someone else (barely, dubiously) but in reality had "sex" (because sex is with the consent of two or more conscious parties, and rape is with the consent and consciousness of one or more parties with the unawareness of other persons) with someone different, and that person knew that u weren't conscious enough to consent properly and knew that u thought they were someone else, it'd be a lot less sexy.
say what u want if it'll help u feel better about getting horny off of a scene in which someone is raped, but at least be honest with ur reason and say that u thought it was hot instead of coming up with bullshit reasoning.
and before u type up ur heated and defensive response, be aware that i'm not going to respond or engage with u unless ur ready to have a real conversation because ur wasting ur breath and my time.