I personnally find this story tragic... Because, if Hyunsung and Dojin are together it's t...

Mister Pumpkin August 19, 2019 12:20 am

I personnally find this story tragic... Because, if Hyunsung and Dojin are together it's thanks to their part of animality.... They stay omega and alpha, this is a sort of continuation of Alpha like dominant and Omega dominated, hyunsung has never wanted be with an alpha and several times has been against cliche of Omega in the society. His mother suffer from this system, and Hyunsung wasn't really for a child, I see him just forced to accept a destiny that he never wanted... Same for Dojin, he hates lost his control and this fucking idea that Alpha must be with omega and that there is a "alpha pride", alpha always dominant and stronge while omega are sweet, nice, and dominated... It's kind of sad, and make me think at the past in our world where was exactly the same cliche with men and woman. This mangas just show us, a vision really persimistic from the world, she said that even if we want fight against nature, society, you will be always a part of that, and you will follow that society...

Hyunsung and Dojin have never wanted to be obedient to this society, Dojin hated omega and hyesung hated being an alpha with this subtil and direct discrimination....
This story don't change this problem, Omega will be weak, sweet, little... While alpha will be ambitious, tall, imposant, Amazing... It's just... Very tragic, humans aren't so easy to read and we can't classify each other like this, it's too easy and so stupid... I would like omegaverse more ... Realistic and stop with this strict opposition between Omega and Alpha it's deliver a poisonous message for me, alpha are more intelligente, more strong ... While Omega are the contrary... It's pissed me off, because all people in the genre obey at this logic, for example we don't have a omega who fight to sucesse in his life, with his passion and his job without to be fucked by an alpha that he knows for two days.

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    afroluv August 19, 2019 1:18 am

    Yeah the first couple is an example of the title drop 'love is an illusion' ..their love is created by pheromones and in this manga, the weird, unconscious but consensual life bond occurrence..they would never be together without the accident that is Byul bc they are not a couple in love...they like each other and yeah dojin probably loves heesyung by now so...
    But anyway I have hopes for couple #2 esp with the rich, smart, bitchy powerful omega getting in the mix.. Any gender x beta is true love in any omegaverse but not too many mangakas exploit that view.


    As for omegaverse as a genre...omegas are supposed to represent the oppressed people we see in the real world: eg women, people of color. Alphas represent those with power and privilege who have that just bc they were born with a certain characteristic-not bc they did anything to earn it--like white males in America. A more poignant example would be the Hindu Indian caste system..Dalits - tech they are so low they're outside the caste system (Omegas) and Brahmins/Hindu elites (Alphas).

    So anyway, those tropes are not going away for those who write in the traditional omegaverse format. The real world oppression already pisses me off so maybe I'm immune to it in fiction. I read and I sympathize with the Omegas and praise the manga I come across that have good Alphas.

    If you want something a little lighter try

    http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/yukyu_omega/ or

    http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/boku_no_high_spec_kareshi_sama/


    If you're tired of the rape trope that has no meaning to the plot try these
    http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangalist/425432/

    BeepBopp August 20, 2019 8:45 pm
    Yeah the first couple is an example of the title drop 'love is an illusion' ..their love is created by pheromones and in this manga, the weird, unconscious but consensual life bond occurrence..they would never ... afroluv

    Actually i think you are wrong about Dojin and Hyesung, their love wasn’t created by the pheromones. Yes the title says « love is an illusion » as it is the mind set of both character at the start of the story, which is why both do not aknowledge the love eachother.

    At first Dojin doesn’t understand what he feels but he ends up understanding before Hyesung(who is bound by a trauma, due to his dad using his mom, that he eventually overcome). Of course both characters kind of fell in love a bit randomly (way too fast) but thats how yaoi works, it’s not due to omegaverse.

    Also, Hyesung and Dojin’s soul bound happened after they met, so i think the bound was made by their love (before they aknowledge it) so it’s not like they were forced by nature.

    afroluv August 20, 2019 9:51 pm
    Actually i think you are wrong about Dojin and Hyesung, their love wasn’t created by the pheromones. Yes the title says « love is an illusion » as it is the mind set of both character at the start of the ... BeepBopp

    We're gonna have to agree to disagree. IMHO They do not appear to be in love and they do not come off as lovey dovey. Hyesung only casually admitted to liking Dojin in chapter 61 or 62/3. Dojin may love hyesung but he can't articulate the 'why' of it..when he was asked he said I love u cause you're you. He can't explain cause it is the alpha pheromone talking. I'll bet hyesoo and Dojun could tell you what they love about each other bc theirs is REAL. Again that is my opion. Ymmv

    BeepBopp August 21, 2019 4:14 am
    We're gonna have to agree to disagree. IMHO They do not appear to be in love and they do not come off as lovey dovey. Hyesung only casually admitted to liking Dojin in chapter 61 or 62/3. Dojin may love hyesung... afroluv

    There is never really a reason of why you love someone though. There are reasons why you can be interested in someone, but once you love someone there is not a reason for it.

    Best example for that is if i ask you why you love your family, there is not a reason. If you are going out with someone and i ask you why you love him, are you seriously going to name something ? I believe there is not really a reason for loving someone, you just want to be loved back (and being loved as a different meaning for everyone).

    BeepBopp August 21, 2019 4:15 am
    We're gonna have to agree to disagree. IMHO They do not appear to be in love and they do not come off as lovey dovey. Hyesung only casually admitted to liking Dojin in chapter 61 or 62/3. Dojin may love hyesung... afroluv

    Oh and im not trying to convince you that they loved each other, i’m just saying i disagree that love needs a reason to be

    afroluv August 21, 2019 11:17 am
    There is never really a reason of why you love someone though. There are reasons why you can be interested in someone, but once you love someone there is not a reason for it. Best example for that is if i ask y... BeepBopp

    I think you're confusing a reason to love with why you love a particular person...I'm talking about the latter for this story. Even a shallow person might say they love someone bc they are physically attractive. I fell in love with my man cause he is handsome, smart, funny, affectionate. We have fun together, have great chemistry...etc etc. Saying I love him bc he's him is a copout imho.

    I love my family bc we are a close knit family. We talk together, we travel together, celebrate and grieve together. We fight but don't hold grudges...

    We can all identify what we love in others if it's really love. I couldn't think of one thing to find loveable in hyesung, he was one of the most annoying MCs I've ever read about. Sure I can sympathize that he is a product of his abusive upbringing bit Dojin is only into him bc he can have cute kids...an Alpha drive to procreate.

    BeepBopp August 21, 2019 10:51 pm
    I think you're confusing a reason to love with why you love a particular person...I'm talking about the latter for this story. Even a shallow person might say they love someone bc they are physically attractive... afroluv

    So you are saying, that if he gets uglier, isn’t as funny and less smart your love will also decrease? I don’t think these are why you love him. Being affectionnate might be a cause, because through his affection, you can feel his love and thats what we want, to be loved the same way we love someone.

    Him being smart, funny and handsome are probably reasons why you fell for him, but once you love him, i think all what matters is to feel loved back.

    afroluv August 21, 2019 11:32 pm
    So you are saying, that if he gets uglier, isn’t as funny and less smart your love will also decrease? I don’t think these are why you love him. Being affectionnate might be a cause, because through his aff... BeepBopp

    You are getting off topic now bc now you're talking about two people who are already in love...sure if my man was in a motorcycle accident and he's suddenly fugly and slow on the uptake cuz he didn't wear his helmet that time, I'd still love him but maybe I'd have to keep my eyes closed when we kiss. I'll still remember fondly how attractive and quick witted he was but at that point I'd be charmed by all his other qualities. The point I was trying to make was that I can identify what qualities about my partner made me fall for him. Heesoo and Dojin don't really have all that at this point in the story--though you could say Heesoo loves Dojin's money and Dojin loves Heesoo's babymaking capabilities.Byul is a winner.

    BTW, I don't think being loved back is a requirement to love someone...it's definitely a perk though.

    BeepBopp August 22, 2019 7:23 pm
    You are getting off topic now bc now you're talking about two people who are already in love...sure if my man was in a motorcycle accident and he's suddenly fugly and slow on the uptake cuz he didn't wear his h... afroluv

    I do believe when you love someone, all you want is to feel loved back.

    And ok i see that i misunderstood you somewhere.
    But the reason why Dojin fell for Hyesung is because it’s a yaoi manga and in most of them the characters falls in love for no reason. It’s almost always like that, be it yaoi or shounen ai. It’s not due to it being an omegaverse.

    Even Dojun and Heesoo (forgot how to write his name) they dont really have a reason for falling for each other, they didn’t describe each other as their type.