manhwa/manhua/webtoon

IKR! The long scroll comic is too long for what actually is in it. Manga comic are better, they don’t waste space for nothing, and that way their work is well thought out for the spacing of the boxes.

jep. I hate the 'waste space' too!!!! but of course there are real masterpieces with great story and also everything seems well in order (dunno how to say it lol) I mean stuff like 'out of control' or 'raising a bat'. but for me it often feels like... a tv-serie (make more episodes to make more money (or something). for example 'here you are' I really love the main couple, but.... dunno now I get bored, bec. new couples or unwanted plottwist. of course it happend with mangas too: "caste heaven" but its more rare in my opino, or am I wrong?

webtoons are made for phone or tablet, thats why they are in that format, but i usually use pc haha.
idk, its kinda "new". most of them are really long, and you get chapter per week.
also, japan craze has toned down a bit, people are now obsessed with korea instead so i think that plays the part.
also, while cliche i think they did bring something a bit different to bl community so thats why ppl go nuts about them.
boys are usually coloured and more buffed than in manga, kinda more realistic looking (if you can say that haha)

thx. that kinda makes a sence- I mean thats new and about korea (now when htey are obssesd with kpop-boys too).
I disagree with the more realistic part. for 'buffed' only some few comes in my mind.

i meant looking more realistic

ofc they have different styles, some are not, but i think that the colour helps to get more into it.
i also feel that a lot of mangakas have similar drawing styles - that typical yaoi looking artstyle, idk how to explain it, seems like its a trend and they go for it.
but maybe i see it that way since i read way more manga.

Most of them are in color and the art styles are also great. The plots are also great. And since it's a webcomic, it doesn't have that "scanned" look to it. There's lots of reasons why people would prefer this over manga, including character designs. Let's not forget character designs.

I also forgot to mention that with drawing webcomics, you can choose your "brush". Meaning the lines can look different depending on which brush you choose, making them very varied in art styles. This also gives webcomics an edge over manga.

i dont think that last part is completely true since most mangas are now drawn digitally and you can do the same. also manga does vary in artstyles, but i guess due to manga industry and the way its made authors are probably more restricted.
webcomics are usually longer so authors can make plot more dramatic etc so it draws people in (i wouldnt say most of them have really great plots, most are cliches but they can develop them more)

i kinda feel like japanese authors are in a bubble - they are recycling old plots and styles, and are afraid of changing it and spicing it up, but koreans went all in with the marketing and different styles/plots.

i personally dont really like chinese stories because they drag them for too long and have problems with censorship so their stories suffer.

thats true- but this counts for both mangas and the manhua/manhwa

I accept or understand when you say colored is better- I like no love black and white old movies. but a lot of people give a shit of it just bec. its black and white. but I cant, really cant agree with the character design!!!! thats just not true (its also not true that manga characters are better, it depends on the artist)

you can do it also with pencils or with tint. there are many ways. but its true, in mangas they usually dont use it. but I love it when a mangaka does mhhh experiments? like nano bohra. after she met her old sensei, she changed her style a bit - really interesting!

sorry - but they arent longer! just compare- how many pictures have a manga in 1 chapter and how many pictues has a webtoon in 1 chapter?
in my opinion in the end the length is the same or manga is longer

it was more me comparing long webtoons with one vol manga.
imo those are longer. 3-5 webtoon episodes (average ofc, some are more) are around one manga chapter. so webtoons have more going on there, for better or for worse (￣∇￣") (sometimes its really not an advantage tbh).

the way its set up its usually really hard for author but it keeps audience engaged more easily.

just count the first chap from "M Nano? Baka Nano? Hentai Nano?" it has 85 pictues.
here u are" has 32 picures. also just realized often only the figures without a background.

that with the bubble is kinda true- but for both sides. that what sells good will be sucked emtpy till nothing is left- like omegaverse, also stalker stuff is more around and it starts to get ridiculous.

It's because South Korean webcomics reflect their current clothing/hairstyles and all that and I just simply think they look better than manga characters these days. I haven't been interested in any of the recent manga uploads lately even though I used to absolutely love manga before. Japanese artists always create characters that give off that usual japanese uke vibe; dunno how to describe it really. Webcomic ukes appeal more to me because they just look and act more like the type of guys I personally like.

lol cant agree again. it would be the same when you just compare a manga with 6 ch and a manga with ... dunno about 30 chapters. of course in the longer one is a lot going on. but there are also shorter webtoons- may compare them with a norm. manga.

I have a idea- let chose something and lets compare them neutral :D
maybe ... 2 from each? 2 mangas and 2webtoons?
would somebody be interessted?

I mean there's too many of either of them, so it's best to focus on a specific genre/collection of genres or something.