This is just so beautifully deep and screwed up

sashka_1993 May 28, 2019 8:26 pm

Love the characters. This is what adults are, guys. Don't go there. all of us in the category of 25-30 are this bad.

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    Kyon^.^Kyon May 28, 2019 8:54 pm

    I can say that I was like this around 15-18 but to say I am like that at 25 simply isn't true. Everyone has their own life experiences that make them mature faster or slower. I wouldn't be caught dead having a guy shove my head in their crouch without me yelling at them and telling them to get out the damn car. Sadly 17 year old me would have let it happen but not me at 25.

    sashka_1993 May 29, 2019 8:13 pm
    I can say that I was like this around 15-18 but to say I am like that at 25 simply isn't true. Everyone has their own life experiences that make them mature faster or slower. I wouldn't be caught dead having a... Kyon^.^Kyon

    Well, like you said - Each to their own? Good for you anyways. :) This was the last thing I was referring to, though. Sexual preferences are a no no talk for me.
    I just like the fact the characters are very real in the aspect of their personalities and I cannot praise Haesoo enough. A masochist, a sadist, a manipulator, a writer with a block, aware of his fatality yet insecure to the core, knows his flaws, yet doesn't want to work on them. He feels so incredibly human.

    Kyon^.^Kyon May 29, 2019 9:16 pm

    Oh I'm sorry! I wouldn't think sexual talk would be a big no no when talking about a yaoi. I just picked one of the most recent things that happened as an example. I was just stating that not every 25-30 year old has these issues. You may have them and some others too but not everyone.

    sashka_1993 May 29, 2019 9:43 pm
    Oh I'm sorry! I wouldn't think sexual talk would be a big no no when talking about a yaoi. I just picked one of the most recent things that happened as an example. I was just stating that not every 25-30 year ... Kyon^.^Kyon

    Haha, I don't know, when it comes to sex, I don't judge. If someone likes being forced, go for it, and Haesoo clearly enjoys it.
    But regarding other issues, no, I do not have them or rather - I learnt how to accept my flaws and deal with them. But I know many people who do the things the people in this manga do.
    Let me put it this way: The pattern I tend to see in yaoi, shoujo and anywhere is:
    Typical bottom: sweet, innocent, no past, no experience, adored only for that innocence which is so unrealistic it hurts.
    Typica power top:.... need i say more?

    It feels SO good to have an uke like Haesoo.

    sashka_1993 May 29, 2019 9:44 pm
    Oh I'm sorry! I wouldn't think sexual talk would be a big no no when talking about a yaoi. I just picked one of the most recent things that happened as an example. I was just stating that not every 25-30 year ... Kyon^.^Kyon

    I'm biased, can't help it. There's something about this character that I find extremely appealing.

    Kyon^.^Kyon May 29, 2019 9:57 pm
    I'm biased, can't help it. There's something about this character that I find extremely appealing. sashka_1993

    Oh I definitely love haesoo because I think I've told you in another post I really relate to haesoo as well but i think we see things a bit differently in the fact that Haesoo doesnt really enjoy this he convinces himself because he's just getting what he can when it comes to joowons affection. Its easy to play along when you are younger but once you get older it takes its toll. I keep up with the raw chapters and summary of things that happen idk if you do or not. Well maybe we see things a bit differently. Also this type of bottom I've experienced before in a few mangas and manhwa but they are a bit more darker than Love or hate. If you want some recommendations I'll gladly provide some!

    sashka_1993 May 30, 2019 9:17 pm
    Oh I definitely love haesoo because I think I've told you in another post I really relate to haesoo as well but i think we see things a bit differently in the fact that Haesoo doesnt really enjoy this he convi... Kyon^.^Kyon

    Ohh, thank you for not spoiling anything, you're the real MVP. No, I don't keep up, I read the manhwa here, so aain, thank you! No, I agree with you. I don't even think Haesoo is aware of what's going on. He knows his feelings but he cannot relate his actions to his feelings, in a way? He's just acting like a child to get what he wants, but Jowoon is no better. There's just an amazing appeal to both of them, to the fact they are dark and flawed and screwed up. And, please, recommend away! :3

    Kyon^.^Kyon May 30, 2019 10:16 pm

    No problem! Thats why i mentioned it first just in case you didn't. & i don't think haesoo is acting like a child to get what he wants I think he has so low self-esteem that he's just taking what joowon gives him. He goes with the flow that joowon sets not having a say in anything. Basically how a little brother would act with his older brother cuz "older brother knows best" and its made him a very bitter man.

    Recommendations:
    Lover boy - its a great manhwa with real life insecurities from both main characters and its a bit angsty not as bad as this. Its complete already. On mangago
    My lover my teacher- this is a lot more like love or hate and it just came out not too long ago so its low on chapters but instead of step brothers its cousins. With a manipulative top only thing is i havent seen this on mangago yet
    Yatamomo- this is a lot darker to me than love or hate and a lot more toucher subjects. It actually made me cry cuz momo is the best bottom I've ever read about in my opinion. This is complete too. On mangago

    sashka_1993 May 31, 2019 10:47 pm
    No problem! Thats why i mentioned it first just in case you didn't. & i don't think haesoo is acting like a child to get what he wants I think he has so low self-esteem that he's just taking what joowon giv... Kyon^.^Kyon

    The only one I haven't read is Yatamomo, I'll give it a go!
    One of my favourites are Kikoeru, Jealousy and Lie, Cry, Like.
    I recommend all of them and I will put Yatamomo on my to read list. Thank you!

    Kyon^.^Kyon June 1, 2019 4:52 am
    The only one I haven't read is Yatamomo, I'll give it a go!One of my favourites are Kikoeru, Jealousy and Lie, Cry, Like. I recommend all of them and I will put Yatamomo on my to read list. Thank you! sashka_1993

    Thank you! I'll check these out.