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These straight girlies read a few yaois and they think they have a degree on homosexology or some shit girl BYE. None of y'all are going to understand how it's like for us in the LGBT community. Read your yaois and move along.

1. These girls are children, actual little girls.
2. They've never been in a mature relationship.
3. They're not mature.
4. They do not understand how most adults function and the relationship they have with sex--causal sex.

U cannot generalize. Everyone is different. In 25 nd I've been in casual relationship nd in the end I don't feel the use of it. So yeah. People have different opinions and they are entitled to like something or not.

Yea exactly they’re so plagued with heteronormative fairytale bullshit that they think it applies everywhere else adulthood and adult love isn’t black and white nor is it always pure and clean it’s messy and ugly

Well I think it’s time for them to grow the fuck up I like that idea

Not every straight girl is like that. Can you say that you have met each and every straight girl across the world and asked them about their opinions? And as you said it's 2019. Everyone is entitled to show their views. U are angry about the fact that 'we' don't accept the casual sleeping part. I can give an explanation to that-'men' have always subjugated us and looked down upon us since a long time ago and we were/are not given the freedom to sleep around and are looked down upon. So we naturally think that it's bad. We are opening our minds to things like this. You don't know us to the core we don't know you to the core. Let's just settle on mutual respect. If you have problems with us not knowing much about ur community it's not because it's our fault that half of the population keep the things about you guys hidden. We all have time to learn till the day we all die. So don't be rude to them just as they are rude, you can make them understand but still you cannot tell them what to like and what not to like.

What if I told you... I don’t give a fuck about your feelings eat my shit motherfucker majority of people who use this platform to read yaoi/BL/shounen ai Are Straight girls who fetishize gay relationships like gay men are animals so I’m calling it how I see if you felt ran over by that statement that’s a reflection of you not me babes clearly you needed to try harder in opening your minds since casual sex is not something new and it seems counterintuitive that you’re saying women find it disgusting because they’re shamed for it when in reality they shouldn’t have a problem with it if the patriarchy tried so hard to make it seem bad right? Because when you’re opressed in a certain way and others marginalized groups do similar things you would sympathize instead of shame them right? Are you understanding what I’m sayinf?

Oh. Fuck you too. I also had hoped that you would have understood my point. THAT NOT ALL WOMEN HATE GAYS!! I never had anything against gays but now I feel like yeah there are some dickheads like you who is so deep in the dickhole who when approached by the the other party regarding the matter is sour and too angry to comprehend what the other party is saying. And you're talking about equally subjugated communities should team up or understand each other. Oh well, our subjugation is different from yours and well had you known that you were gay since childbirth? If yes then congratulations but no then let me tell you that we women have been told that You are a girl, if not us then our mothers that she is a girl and we are bound by ropes far more than yours if you look into the life of an average girl. If you are salty about the fact that we have not put enough efforts in understanding you people well it's all thanks to guys like you in your community who is just gonna swear and scream and say you don't know about us.

Honestly, you literally proved his point about straight women who read BL being ignorant about homosexuality, it's no wonder he struck a nerve. He also never said all or every straight women who read BL, so don't be so quick to assume that means you.

Well thanks for that. My point exactly. We don't know about them and they don't know us. So why is he pouring so much hate. He can just say that he liked the story and move on.

"What if I told you... I don’t give a fuck about your feelings eat my shit motherfucker "
You are not very mature, and if you can't stand people having different views, just don't comment.( You're probably a teenage boy.)

"......actual gay culture where promiscuity multi sex partners ...." : you do realise that they are gay men who are not agree with you ? some are fed up with this "bad image" of gay men. We are in 2019 we still thought of them as promiscuious people, but not all them are like that. Being gay doesn't mean having sex with everything that moves !
I know gay men you would probably hate because they arent like you : they are tired of the bad image that you contribute to give about gay men being all promiscuous (they would be angry at the "part of the culture"!). But they are older than you, who must be a teenage boy.
Despite being gay, YOU are part of the problem : you say gay men are all promiscious and in the same time you are angry with the people who called gay men "promiscious"!!! or maybe I misundertood what you wanted to say.


(pssssttttt: In 2019 heterosexual women keep fighting for their sexual freedom ! Women fight for having the right to have sex when and with whom they want without be called "promiscious". )

I'm ready for your mature answer !

That's the fact. I know gay men that actually prefer committed relationships. They don't want to be viewed as promiscuous just because a part of LGBT community prefers open relationships or casual sex. Are they also 'heteronormative'? I guess their existence is inconvenient for the author of this comment who is simply generalizing all gay men because it fits better with his own lifestyle and principles...

I'm the annon' you answered to : you phrased what I mean way better than me ! lol, thanks.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Just adding my comment to see how this thread goes. Just because y'all are part of a community doesn't mean you can speak on behalf of them. I know many men who don't like sleeping with everyone who offers.

My only issue was that I couldn't imagine being with someone who slept with all my friends/everyone around (including my own dad wtf). At that point it's not about gay culture. It was just too unrealistic. And it didn't align with my moral compass, I'd literally treat everyone the same idgaf what community you're part of after the fact you slept with my mom/dad, like we can't be friends.

Also about fetishizing gay men welcome to the club (unfortunately). I'm really interested to hear what your solution is. To stop reading yaoi/smut/watch porn? The whole issue of fetishizing someone is treating them like they're people. I get it though like as women we've had the same thing done to us so why are we okay with it being done to other people? And Idk man. But I do think that writing about it is good and learning more. To a lot of people that's the only experience they have with gay ppl lol. I'm sure it opens up a lot of ppl to a new perspective. My main point here is as long you don't take what you read in manga and apply to actual ppl I'm good lolol. And personally I hate when I'm not written by ppl the way I want, I love smart strong characters and he does classify as one. I hate when purity is a characteristic of a person like y'all could see that he's a good person. But if my dad/everyone in my group of friends and I slept with the same person that's a no for me lol.

Organize your thoughts come up with a narrative and make it make sense and I will have a discussion with you because I have no idea what you’re trying to say clearly my problem is people painting promiscuity as a bad thing right? By itself promiscuous has a negative connotation and gay people were shamed for having sex but then they started doing it because the felt like it so that the word promiscuous wouldn’t have a negative connotation right?

And? Is that what I’m talking about? Please tell me where I said gay men didn’t prefer that I would love to see it hear it believe it read it view it agree with it and much more. I’m sorry I just thought I was focusing my argument on the idea that having multiple sexual relationships while being a gay man is bad that’s what I was doing right?

oh so now the heterosexual is telling me not to speak up for my community that’s a classic that’s a classic. Obviously I was talking about gay men who do prefer sex like that you know many people who won’t have sexual partners and I know many people who do you seem to be the most sane and level headed out of all these replies so don’t speak on something you don’t know just because I didn’t specifically categorize every single persons sex life preferneces into tiny little boxes for easy distinction. I’m vouching for my fellow gays that do and for those that don’t know I’m not talking about them. As for your other comments I 100% understand what you mean but like the fact that these people expect the bottom to be pure and submissive and have an undying love for the top is blatantly ignorant and borderline homophobia that’s what I have a problem. Yea fucking your man’s dad is a bad and all but you’ll have to have some suspension of disbelief seeing that this is a manga. And you’d be surprised how many straight Girls Follow gay couples around or “ship” their straight guy friends because of the influence of funjoshia (homophobes) so That’s why I’m so angry and upset

look i get that but the angry comments from actual gay ppl like me are because of the fetishization and literal dehumanization lit people calling him an ONAHOLE and BICYCLE like are you fucking kidding me?? if u ain't sayin this shit I'm good with u. like i don't think the uke should make out with a married man but that is NOT what us gay folk are addressing we ain't angry abt people being angry about that. we mad because people are obviously ignorant i can smell the straight girl from some of these posts. if u don't wanna sleep with someone who been around ur not obligated to be with anyone that's ok. it ain't ok to judge someone else on ur standards as if the seme is an idiot for being with someone he likes. all this isn't addressed to ppl like u but the fucking loonies who think they can police gay ppl behaviour based on some phD they got from yaoi

I admit I'm lacking vocabulary and my grammar is very bad (english is not my language), so sometimes I have difficulties to explain what I mean. But here, I think it was understandable enough.

My problem is that YOU are depecting all gay men as promiscuous, and as something "cultural". But you're wrong, some gay want a commited relationship. YOU reduce homosexuality to promiscuity. I think people shouldn't be reduce to their sexuality.


".....Like he obviously slept around to 1. Advance the shopping district......."You also seem to justify prostitution as something normal for gay men. Is it also cultural ? because the gay men I know wouldn't resort to prostitution unless they are in very very very bad situation. But maybe I misanderstood what you said.

YOU despised straight women without knowing them (you think they are straight women, but in fact you don't know if it is the case, they are just "pseudonyms" and you don't know who are behind those names). You talk to them badly, that's not how we make things better. You can explain things without being an assohole ("What if I told you... I don’t give a fuck about your feelings eat my shit motherfucker...").
You want them to open their mind ? May I suggest you open your mind too ?
You want them to grow up ?Your answers show how immature YOU are.


LGBT people want to be recognized all over the world, want to be respected, to be accepted, want to be judged as human being (not on their sexuality), but people like you and Nevar, you're so patronizing, you're doing more bad than good for the LGBT community (in MY opinion).

Gay men are shamed for their sexuality,
Lesbians are shamed for their sexuality,
Straight women are shamed for their sexuality,
Only straight men are not blamed for their sexuality (even those who are promiscuous, we call them 'play boys").
So we are in the same boat ? I have an idea : if we tried to understand each other by talking "normally", having civilized discussions, without insults, arrogance.... ?

I'm a straight woman, and I don't judge people on their sex life. I fucking don't care what consenting adults do with their bodies, it's their life. Maybe it's because I'm "old".

Before being homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, pansexual, asexual................commited or promiscuous, people are just human beings. That's how I see things.

Sorry if it's still not clear.

Yeah, you didn't say gay men didn't prefer it because you simply didn't mention this kind of possibility. You saying 'you'd hate actual gay culture' make it seem like it's some kind of straight girls vs all gay people fight, but it's not. My point is that in real life there are also gay men that don't like the idea of having multiple sexual relationships and it's not just 'heteronormative fairytale bullshit' of some straight girls reading yaoi, that's all.