It bothered me a bit that they keep refering to the trans girl with "he/him" pronouns

Elen42564 March 20, 2019 4:49 pm

It bothered me a bit that they keep refering to the trans girl with "he/him" pronouns

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    AverageWeirdo April 18, 2019 5:43 am

    It's probably a translation thing, in Japanese they could have been using gender neutral ones (cuz, unlike english, they actually have them) or even her/she but the translators F'ed up ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    chey April 19, 2019 12:21 pm
    It's probably a translation thing, in Japanese they could have been using gender neutral ones (cuz, unlike english, they actually have them) or even her/she but the translators F'ed up ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ AverageWeirdo

    we do have gender neutral pronouns in english though lol. they/them.
    and yeah it was probably the translators and they probably did it on purpose bc ppl ain't shit.

    AverageWeirdo April 20, 2019 8:50 am
    we do have gender neutral pronouns in english though lol. they/them.and yeah it was probably the translators and they probably did it on purpose bc ppl ain't shit. chey

    Technically using them like that (lol, pun not intended) isn't grammatically correct, apparently--yet. In colloquial speech we use they/them as both singular AND plural, you're right, so I'm sure grammarians will pull their heads out of their asses sometime soon and make it official. I mean, if "funner" can be made a word, they/them can be a gender neutral singular pronoun!(/TДT)/

    chey April 20, 2019 9:20 am
    Technically using them like that (lol, pun not intended) isn't grammatically correct, apparently--yet. In colloquial speech we use they/them as both singular AND plural, you're right, so I'm sure grammarians wi... AverageWeirdo

    it's been used as a singular pronoun since the 14th century and dictonaries have listed it as a singular pronoun. famous people like emily dickinson, shakespeare, chaucer, even wycliffe in the 1300s. it is grammatically correct. and has been for a long time. the only people saying it isn't are transphobic assholes.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/singular-nonbinary-they

    chey April 20, 2019 9:21 am
    it's been used as a singular pronoun since the 14th century and dictonaries have listed it as a singular pronoun. famous people like emily dickinson, shakespeare, chaucer, even wycliffe in the 1300s. it is gram... chey

    plus there have been other gender neutral singular pronouns in dictonaries from the early 1900s

    AverageWeirdo April 21, 2019 8:53 pm
    plus there have been other gender neutral singular pronouns in dictonaries from the early 1900s chey

    Wow, google and my school profs have clearly failed me then! No complaints though, I've been using them/their like that since I don't even know when because that's how people use it when speaking, so good to know that it's proper, official use :). (Though if that's the case, I'm not sure why there's people pushing for "zhim, zhers, zhimself" as gender neutral pronouns when we already have ones that are used colloquially and are also officially recognized?? Eh, IDK ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭)

    Something Useless February 19, 2024 11:49 am

    You are definitely American... Its the only country that's always being bitchy about pronounces .... Right? what right? So laughable... Its either male or female... even as trans, their genital are still of that male/female so just use he or she as supposedly...

    AverageWeirdo February 19, 2024 4:25 pm
    You are definitely American... Its the only country that's always being bitchy about pronounces .... Right? what right? So laughable... Its either male or female... even as trans, their genital are still of tha... Something Useless

    Bruuuuuuuuuh... I won't argue that Americans can be anal and butthurt about stupid things (as a Canadian, making fun of Americans is one of our favorite pastimes) but it is NOT just America that respects the chosen pronouns of trans or non-binary people . If someone tells you they want to be addressed as she/her, or they/them, or he/him, that's what you do. Becasue it's the decent and polite thing to do, and it takes literally no effort.

    In this case, the original Japanese was probably gender neutral so the translators had to make a call. It's been too long since I read this to remember anything, but if the person in question said the words "I am a woman" then they should have used female pronouns. If not, well, being trans and crossdressing are not the same thing so "he/him" could also have been fine, depending on the context. I just don't remember what the context is, lol