One Problem

LazyBread March 6, 2019 1:44 pm

Look... I really, really love "If you hate me that much." After reading this for the third time, I saw something that worries me very much. After a lot of rape on Minjae, he just... Says it's not a big problem? When I read it, I tried to understand for a couple of seconds if it really happened. The problem is, that Hyeongjo a couple of times, literally raped him. In one of the chapters, Minjae looked really bad, like he was lost and was ready to die at any moment. But when he said that it was not a big problem, I was just so surprised and... disappointed.

here a couple more questions, why does Minjae love Hyeongjo? What binds them apart from rape? Why then they do not go to the psychologist? Both clearly have psychological problems.

Responses
    La-ka March 6, 2019 2:14 pm

    I also thought the same.

    Eiz March 6, 2019 4:20 pm

    ... Because this is FICTION and not REAL LIFE. These are fictional characters in a fictional world (story). If you want something based in real life - then read non fiction.
    In real life the protagonist would avoid the person who sexually abused them, not get involved. It ain't real - perhaps in rl a person could get attached top their attacker (but I'm no psychologist major). But if the author delved more into this, they would stray away from the story the wanted to create. And it would be a pretty heavy drama.

    Let's just enjoy the story for what it is - fiction. Wonderfully written by an author who can put their imagination into a story that entertain readers like us -moving us so much that we can feel for the characters (sometimes we would like to whack some sense into them, too).

    Ooopsie - didn't mean to sound cantankerous. Please pay no heed to this old bones who is greatly sleep deprived. I should cut down on marathon ready.

    LazyBread March 6, 2019 9:31 pm
    ... Because this is FICTION and not REAL LIFE. These are fictional characters in a fictional world (story). If you want something based in real life - then read non fiction. In real life the protagonist would ... Eiz

    Yes, I understand that this is fiction. But this does not mean that rape can be used as the affection of characters and the advancement of the plot. Rape in any story is irrelevant or not, a serious thing. When you write about rape, you need to know that you can not get off from it just like that.

    For example, the manga "Midara na Hina wa Haru o Uru", is a beautiful and short manga in which rape is the main problem. Although it has a big minus at the end, this story is also fiction. Or Manga "Bakadane, Shitteruyo" in which there is incest, but the story itself is very real and the victim behaves like an ordinary person.

    I just want to say that it doesn’t matter whether the story is real or not, rape is a serious thing and you cannot just be left behind.

    Eiz March 6, 2019 11:55 pm
    Yes, I understand that this is fiction. But this does not mean that rape can be used as the affection of characters and the advancement of the plot. Rape in any story is irrelevant or not, a serious thing. When... LazyBread

    Point taken - and I quite agree. Rape is no joking matter, nor should it be taken lightly.
    "Midara na Hina wa Haru o Uru", in my opinion, is more deeper and darker than this manhwa - it deals more with child prostitution. (And to be honest, I wanted to castra- ehem... let's keep my evil thoughts in check).

    However, in yaoi it seems to be an often used element. Unlike other stories though, what I liked in this story is that Hyeongjo acknowledged it and asked for Minjae's forgiveness - then goes and treats him preciously, trying to payback/repent the wrong he did to the latter. In most stories it (the rape) would have been forgotten as the story progressed.

    gato March 7, 2019 8:29 am
    Point taken - and I quite agree. Rape is no joking matter, nor should it be taken lightly."Midara na Hina wa Haru o Uru", in my opinion, is more deeper and darker than this manhwa - it deals more with child pro... Eiz

    Hidoku Shinaide even in this story rape is an element used. As well as the uke forgiving the seme for doing such things

    LazyBread March 7, 2019 2:07 pm
    Point taken - and I quite agree. Rape is no joking matter, nor should it be taken lightly."Midara na Hina wa Haru o Uru", in my opinion, is more deeper and darker than this manhwa - it deals more with child pro... Eiz

    Yes, I understand what you mean. Forgive me if it sounds rude, (I do not want a fight ╥﹏╥) but still it’s not like that, do you not think? I mean, it's cool that Hyeongjo is trying to apologize, but after all, apologies alone won't change everything, right?

    Once again, I really like this manga! Characters are well written and very similar to people in real life! The art-style is beautiful and every character has motives! But this one thing really disappointed me. Because it is precisely this that binds the characters, forcing them to recognize each other and in the end fall in love and be a couple.

    I just think that when you write a story in which there is rape, pedophilia, murder, etc. It is necessary, as it were, to adhere to psychology and know what the consequences of such actions are.

    Eiz March 7, 2019 4:15 pm
    Yes, I understand what you mean. Forgive me if it sounds rude, (I do not want a fight ╥﹏╥) but still it’s not like that, do you not think? I mean, it's cool that Hyeongjo is trying to apologize, but af... LazyBread

    LOL... I don't think you rude at all! You're simply stating your opinion, no harm in that - and I am stating mine. Even friends will have different view of things and will debate and squabble - but will still respect each other's opinion. Besides we agree that this manga is worth the read - even with parts that one may not agree with.

    Eiz March 7, 2019 4:23 pm
    Hidoku Shinaide even in this story rape is an element used. As well as the uke forgiving the seme for doing such things gato

    Yes... but that manga confounded me. I mean in this manga it didn't take years for Hyeongjo to apologize - whereas in "Hidoku Shinaide" Maya and Nemu were already in uni when the idiot Maya realized the wrong he did when they were in high school. Well - at least he did change and show remorse.

    I liked that story too - I enjoyed the character development... and idiocy. And Nemu is as adorable as Minjae.

    gato March 10, 2019 7:54 am
    Yes... but that manga confounded me. I mean in this manga it didn't take years for Hyeongjo to apologize - whereas in "Hidoku Shinaide" Maya and Nemu were already in uni when the idiot Maya realized the wrong h... Eiz

    I see what you mean now . ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    Raquel March 18, 2019 12:22 am
    ... Because this is FICTION and not REAL LIFE. These are fictional characters in a fictional world (story). If you want something based in real life - then read non fiction. In real life the protagonist would ... Eiz

    Yes

    Racchi May 16, 2019 4:16 am

    Agreed. So far what I've seen is MC gets raped a bunch of times and then he suddenly realizes that he likes his rapist? How does that make any sense. The whole time I was reading it I was just growing steadily more horrified at how unbalanced their relationship was and all the raping. Can't understand how people can enjoy this, but to each their own. As for me, it's a drop.

    Also just read the conversation above, am pleasantly surprised to see how civil you guys all were! It's rare to see these days.