Well, maybe we'll get some fan service in the end

I do think that Bum deserves a hapy ending because he has the worst life someone could imagine and got abused or bullied by literally everyone in
the story. I would be all open for a ending where Bum starts living with Seungbae for some time and them helping each other.
The characters grew imo in some way, Sangwoo just can't be cured because he's a narcissistic Sociopath. It was clear that he wouldn't stay "normal" forever until he got back to his original self. The flashbacks could've been done better though. Sangwoo's past took several chapters and we still don't know about some things.
The story is depressing, but a happy ending would feel refreshing and surprising.
I don't think that he ever loved Bum, look at how easily he just tried to kill him after everything that happend even though Bum pleaded for his life.
Bum's love for Sangwoo is mostly his old obession with him, him being naive, thinking that Sangwoo would change and Stockholm Syndrome.
I wouldn't call the mother the true villain, she also had her problems since childhood and needed mental help.
I'm not sure if he has good inside after everything he did to his victims and Bum, it's hard to explain.

Agree.

I think about it since he got Bum invading the madman's house I also wring Bae to love Bum at the end, even though he's a poor character, after all we have yaoi tag but no tragedy
I vow to Sangwoo dig his own death but not by the hands of Bae or Bum.

I understand that Sangwoo doesn't love Bum, not in the normal way. I don't think he can love the normal way. But I think that Bum is the closest thing to love that he ever felt. Sure, it's related to his mother and how Bum somehow is similar to her. Even though the author never fully explored the psychological relation between Bum and the mother, or why Sangwoo emulates Bum as his mother, dressing like her, making him act like her, I think that what Sangwoo feels for Bum is his way of loving. Of course, he is still a broken person, he can easily kill him in a whim since at this point in the story he is completely unstable and see Bum negatively and not positively.

When Sangwoo is "ok" mentally Bum is able to be himself and in those moments they were all lovey dovey, the proof is when Bum did ok when the cops got involved and Sangwoo began to act and see him differently. When Sangwoo isn't ok he makes Bum dress like his mother because he is despising him right now and see him as his mother, but not his idealized version of his mother, but the real one. So I kinda understand he being able to kill Bum right now because he actually hates him, the same way he loves and hates his mother. But, maybe, he can also love him again. Maybe if those dam pills never got lost none of this would be happening. The detective would be alive, the cop would still be at his home, and they Sangwoo and Bum would be fine. Who knows. But the moment that he started to relate Bum to his mother negatively everything went downhill because he doesn't trust Bum anymore. Long story short, I think Sangwoo loves Bum, but he is also crazy and capable of killing the thing that he loves.

To me his mother is at fault for everything that is happening, I can't feel sorry for her. Of course, Sangwoo is responsible for the things that he did and I don't know if right now he is able to do good. However, if he wasn't traumatized, I think he would have a lot of more good inside and that would have controlled his sociopath impulses. Maybe if things weren't the way they are right now his relationship with Bum could had stabilized his mental state enough that he could stopped killing. But of course, it would only be a matter o time before something would go wrong and he would go back to killing. He is broken and Bum wouldn't be enough to fix him or fill the hole in his heart and mind.

I think the love Bum feels for Sangwoo is honest. Sure, if Bum had a normal life he wouldn't be with Sangwoo in this situation, but since he is also a broken person, with no one to love him and with no one that he loves, the relationship with Sangwoo is precious to him because is the worse and best thing that ever happened to him. And that has a lot to do with stockholm syndrome, but nevertheless, it doesn't make it less real. I think his feelings are genuine even though we can't understand how they exist. We can't relate to that since we haven't gone through the same things that he did.

I see Sangwoo and Bum as broken, different people from us. Incomplete human beings, almost from a different species. The way they act, the way they love, the way they relate with others isn't the same way we do because they are build in a odd way. Their brains work differently because they are sick. With that in mind I can accept that their love for each other, and that is for the left for the author to make ir exist or not, is honest and real within their broken world. Thanks for the reply.

It's mostly due to him thinking that they look similiar. The women Sangwoo choked to death wasn't like his mom at all, but her face looked exactly the same which triggered him and lead to her death.
But he still wants Bum to be his mother figure in some way or another, like when he asked him if they could play a game where he's the child and Bum the mom. Bum is to him like a replacement of his mom.

With the cops involving, do you mean that with the Police Station? Because that didn't end well for Bum and Sangwoo only became calmer because of the dream he had.
The pills misunderstanding did make Bum and Sangwoo's relationship worse, but the old officer would still came because of Jieun's Death though, leading to his death, so Seungbae would have still come to Sangwoo's house regardless.

I get why you would hate the mom, so do I, but like Sangwoo now having his reasons why he is like he is, so does the mom as well. She was mentally unwell, like Sangwoo is at the moment.

I'm not sure if he would have stopped killing. He did kill the uncle, that mom-lookalike women and the old officer just in one season. It would have been only a matter of time until he killed Bum's old crush as well.
That's why I mean that the relationship will never work. With how mentally fucked Sangwoo is, he will always lose his shit after every misunderstanding and go back to his S1 roots, destroying the "bond" they developed.

Bum did stop loving him back in the early days of S1 though, but then got confused by his own feelings which makes me think that his feelings aren't 100% genuine, but mixed with all of the things I mentioned above.

There is definitely something unique about how Koogi wrote both characters and how you think that they will do this, but then do something completely else. Nobody can really put themselves in their minds, not because nobody went through what they went through, but because everyone deals with their trauma in their different, own way.

Thank you too.

THANK YOU for saying this. This manga broke my heart. I swear I be living normally at work or walking and I remember Sangwoo and Bum as kids, hqppy normal kids, and I feel my heart suddenly breaks more. It really hurts. They could have had a normal life. Sangwoo was such an adorable little perfect boy. I love him so much. I hate the mom the most, yeah. I think I'll just keep living in a world in which they grew up normally, met and fell in love.

Sorry you did a good work trying to uncover two sick minds congras, but I have to disagree with your structural maxim of the thesis "love"

 What they have's a Codependency Pathological. Human beings need to learn to eat, love also learns, unfortunately they never learned what love is. Yoonbum was never loved.
Sangwoo was loved by his father at an age that he can't remember, he recalls the sick advances of the maternal figure that weren't love. Don't call it love.
Love isn't in kiling stalking.
when Snagwoo is "ok" mentally, you mean, when he's in his psychopathic persona without delusions he manipulates Yoonbum in order to gain absolute control over his toy and to follow up with whatever the plan he has of his sick head. Sangwoo never made love to Yoonbum all that mess was rape. Don't call it be lovey dovey.
Bum doesn't love Sangwoo, the poor thing suffers from pathological submission that's in his personality, he'll instinctively fall for someone dominant to stay with him or he'll return stalking to not feel loneliness. Don't call it as his feelings are genuine, since he will fall for any dominant figure that catches his attention. I hope this person's Seungbae soon and then Yoonbum'll learn what love is.
Yaoi inside Kiling S. screams for it, a feeling of love.

What you wrote is interesting and I understand and can agree with that. It's just that I see it from a different mind set, even though what they have isn't love, but disease that complement each other, they make each other "happy" in a way. Two mess up people with mess up stories end up together and are somehow able to function and take from one another something they long and need. Bum takes from Sangwoo the attention that he needs and Sangwoo takes something from Bum too, I still think that Bum makes Sangwoo happy in his way.

In that context what they have is the closest thing that two broken people as they are can call love. I never saw them as a regular couple, but as two pitiful things that have nothing but sadness in their life finding in each other some resemblance of love. They can take from one another and be for one another things that they both need. Bum had a huge impact in Sangwoo life, look at all the mistakes that Sangwoo made and decisions that he took because of Bum. He is in this deplorable state because Bum, without wanting to, messed up his perfect sociopath life. This influence, for good or bad (good for the potential victims of Sangwoo that are going to live after his death and bad because Sangwoo is a mess mentaly), is what causes Sangwoo downfall.

I understood your fascination from the beginning "Two mess up people with mess up stories end up together and are somehow able to function" , but do you really believe that two mess up people with mess up stories, at that mess level, end up together and are somehow able to function?
Sangwoo frustrates all the emotional and physical needs of Yoonbum and Bum feels alive by staying with his "idol" and receiving the crumbs. Bum knows that Sangwoo's his death, he is intelligent, tried to escape several times in his own way, and to that you define it as a means of being happy in his way.
I understood your point of view. Basically you sympathized with the dynamics of Codependency Pathological and I get you, this's a fascinating curiosity the way they act trying and surviving each other. Until one day end up in one killing the other.
it's just depressing and sad to "see their world through their eyes" and say that Bum makes the sadistic Sangwoo happy in his way. A dysfunctional helping relationship where the behavior of both's a progressive vicious circle of emotional destruction and abuse.
The huge impact that Bum caused was to enter in the calculated life of a psycho and accelerate his mental deterioration. Sangwoo found the best of fools to play with, but he didn't expect to relive the horror of the hallucinations of his worst fear, his mother. Anyone approved by Sangwoo as a toy, allowed to stay by his side would trigger his mother complex.
I can only say that your fascination's just romanticize the chaos, as the Disney version of fairy tales that're actually terrible horror stories.
There's no room for glimpse of romance in Kiling S.

If I don't try to find some "good" in this story, being character growth, overcoming trauma, or a love story, Killing Stalking will be just a massive depressing torture porn manhwa. It's just too depressing if there is nothing positive that I as a reader can get out of this and that's completely my desire as a consumer of this manhwa.

I'm actually not trying to romanticize, I really don't care if they love each other or not. I just want some good out of this fuck up story and since we aren't getting "Sangwoo is able to overcome his trauma" or "Bum is able to heal Sangwoo trauma" or "Bum is able to run away from the psycho and find happiness" or "Everybody goes to jail", at least trying to see some resemblance of love is a possibility. They can die, they can blow up each other, they can end up in prison. But some sort of development has to happen. A form of justice, if not for the victims of Sangwoo, at least for the main characters. I want to look back at the manhwa that I read more than 60 chapters and think that I either learned something or that the main character learned/evolved with everything that happened.

Anyway, I think you and I have different expectations of how the story should make us feel. I don't like overly depressing stories where nothing changes, where there is no growth, where the characters don't evolve, or we as the reader don't get a closure or a story lesson in the end. Again, I don't want to read torture porn. Now that I'm thinking about it there is a movie called Martyrs that have one of the most depressing story ever, but even that massive fuck up movie is able to deliver something that made feel ok with all the sad things that I watched. If Killing Stalking ends the way it seems it's going to end I'll be disappointed as a reader and I think the manhwa is just too good for me in the end to be disappointed with how things turned out.

Estou numa correria desculpa o português apressado.
não temos como saber justJC, nos arriscamos em ler webtoons e ultimamente tenho lido muitos finais merdas afinal nem todos nasceram para ser aqueles verdadeiros bom e velhos mangakas né? E não temos expectativas diferentes, por isso escolhi conversar contigo ;)
Se você esqueceu o que eu disse acima :"I think about it since he got Bum invading the madman's house I also wring Bae to love Bum at the end, even though he's a poor character, after all we have yaoi tag but no tragedy.I vow to Sangwoo dig his own death but not by the hands of Bae or Bum."
Parece que o personagem Bae existe apenas para salvar Bum do seu sofrimente e abraça-lo em amor no final.
E..eu quero ver Sangwoo sofrer por mais um pouco, essas queimaduras e ficar meio paraplégico não foi suficiente pra mim.
Apenas tentei explicar suas expectativas românticas da perspectiva que este horror traduz. Com Koogi o imprevisível sempre está presente, mas ela demonstrou saber capturar nossa atenção com o carinho fingido de Sangawoo. Espero que sua próxima obra seja um puta yaoi de tirar o fôlego ehehe
Grato por nossa conversa (●'◡'●)ﾉ nos lemos por aí.