LOL whatever makes you feel better I don't have problem with yaoi but every time I do try to read it again it is rape fiction or not its mad weird sometimes, and see I wouldn't have problem if you just thought this with the books but if you think this in real that a rapist has redeem his self in life cause they decided to turn themselves in after they couldn't take all the pain and suffering they brought it into people lives, and if your women that's Even sadder u think like that u. I pray you never have children if that's actually your way of thinking in the real world
Also one more thing the author and her work is deeply feminist and focussed on women and our experiences in Japanese society, shining a painful light on many things most people would rather look away from. I feel like you just missed the whole point of the book. Like you should read a article about the author reasoning for the book like how the way women are told not to get raped rather than anyone telling men not to rape. its also about rape culture. and it weird how your trying to understand the rapist when the main point wasn't even about him. your kinda like the people she was writing the book like no matter what the women can't win...
Wow and I didnt know that the story is about women empowerment. Again, just because I did not discuss the victim, I'm against the victim and I am pro rape. And keep saying about my children having them raped, maybe you don't get satisfied when the perpetrator is served justice, I dont know what will satisfy you. Also, I'm a case to case person, nothing is absolute. Remorse and justice is more important to me.
Wow that’s crazy u think, that I guess I can’t change your mind just. Perhaps when you actually have someone u know go through that your point of view would change and most women don’t even get justice. And I am satisfied with him going to jail but just cause he feels guilty for his wrong duty’s doesn’t change the fact his wrong doing will have a life time effect on them. Like he would just be like any other rapist in real life and he just had breaking point Like some murderers and abusers etc.
Generalizing one case to be applicable to everyone, smh. Yes a lot of rape cases do not get justice. Redemption does not apply to those who have not been served justice and did not feel any guilt or remorse, even more so. Again, case to case basis. So I don't what you are barking at.
People like you, man, who said, by admitting to their faults changes the fact that they have wronged people? And that in an instant the victims get to live better lives after? No it doesn't, that does not change and it will be a continuous struggle for them to win over their trauma. The victims have their struggles to deal with. But everyone is different. In the case of Hara, in the end she just looked at her present and what she can do for her future. She did not look back, esp that her rapist turned himself in, I don't even remember if she knew, but she did not keep her situation drag her down anymore.
On the other side of the coin, there are criminals that exist, must be few but I believe do exist, who are burdened about their sins and carry those throughout their life, because they actually have a damn conscience. Whether they get paroled or life imprisonment, to me, if they have tried to live as a better person while bearing that guilt, makes them worth redemption or even forgiveness. But then again it does not apply to all because not everyone can self-reflect and have a modicum of conscience. My opinion on Hayafuji is specific on Hayafuji only because he was able to reflect and analyze his situation. When I wrote my OP, I saw potential when he had a realization and it turn out that he indeed was so guilty he tried to take his life, which imo unfair to end the suffering, but commendable that he turned himself in instead.
It's hard explaining to people who have single outlook in life that there are multiple perspectives in situation. Whether you read this long or not, idc. Tis my last reply.
Point is he turned himself in. He was not caught by the police. He faced the consequences all on his own will. He also faced his family, mother and child. He did not run away, leaving town nor killing himself. It is not common for people like him to do that. He actually had conscience in the end and has the chance to better himself, if not for himself, at the least he can for his child. He chose to be better. He chose accountability.
If you don’t see that light and only see all the negatives, then yeah happy to stay in Stupid Town.
Your main point revolves around him being a good character because he turned himself in, meaning he supposedly didn’t run away from responsibility. Yet, what flew right over your head was how he reported himself right AFTER his fiance told him to take responsibility by spending the rest of his life taking care of her and his child. He didn’t report himself because he wanted to take responsibility, he reported himself for the sole point of avoiding it. And what the fuck do you mean he faced his family, mother, and child? His actions resulted in his fiancé being a single mother who will have to take care of his child on a single income all the while being stigmatized as the fiancé of the rapist and physical assaulter of a school teacher! Now he’s stuck in jail, not being able to face anyone because he’s IN JAIL.
And him reporting himself doesn’t automatically make absolve him of his actions. That’s the bare minimum of what he should’ve done and he did it right AFTER his fiancé’s water broke and she needed help the most. She was telling him “hey, I need you to help me call a taxi,” and he basically told her to go fuck herself because he prioritized his wants instead and called the police. That is textbook selfishness. He’s not taking responsibility, he’s just doing whatever he wants without considering how his actions would affect others! His first plan of offing himself so he wouldn’t have to take responsibility failed so he took the next best option, go to jail so he doesn’t have to take care of his child and face societal stigma!
Furthermore, the point of the author including his past was to EXPLAIN his actions, not JUSTIFY them. It’s plain storytelling so the character doesn’t feel flat you dill weed.
The character you’re defending remains a serial rapist, and someone who brutally assaulted and blackmailed women.
It’s been two years, yet you’re still defending the rapist, blackmailer, and assaulter. It’s unfortunate you haven’t grown past the horrible empty shell you are. Please do the world a favor and don’t have any children— if anyone would even want you in the first place, because you’re the exact type of person who would place blame on her child if she found out the dad was assaulting them. Or, you’re the kiddy-diddler yourself and that’s why you’re fighting tooth and nail for this rapist of a character.
Point is, you’re a terrible person so yes, stay in Stupid Town.
I did not say everything he did is finally okay just because he turned himself in. But it’s a start than committing suicide and running from everything. I am not fighting tooth and nail for him. I am explaining my perspective because I value accountability even if it’s all too late than choosing death for everything he did. Death is not justice to everything he did. I see being in jail is. Living to see everything you cherished, hurt, taken for granted taken away from you on top of seeing people looking at you with disdain, rightfully so after everything. He chose that instead of ending his life and never experiencing all of it. I am not defending a rapist, I am just commending someone who faced the consequences. Sure he was told to but in the end he chose that because he was all prepared to do the other option.
If anything you’re the terrible one here because you already judged me and wrote a bunch of shit whilst not knowing anything about me and just basing it all off on my opinion of a manga, of a fictional character, who simply did not choose suicide to pay for his crimes. You already judged my present even my future, are you playing god?
Not only are you a bad person, you’re also dog shit at reading. The only reason he didn’t choose the selfish route of committing suicide was because his fiancé stopped him before he could successfully finish the job.
I don’t have to personally know you to be able to judge your character. You’re publicly defending a rapist, abuser, and blackmailer. You’re a bad shitty person and god forbid a rape-apologist be responsible for vulnerable individuals like children.
He can still do it you know? You think his fiance actually had any power over him? He could've left town and ran. He CHOSE it. But you refuse to give it to him and I don't get why tf it's so hard to do admit that. Instead you enumerate everything he did again after what, 4 years this comment was posted.
No. You are judging a person in the internet. And you are refusing to understand what I am saying. I never said he is absolved of everything he did. He is PAYING for it in the right way. It's like talking to a WALL. You only point out the wrongs and never actually moving forward and giving solution. You are even calling names. Never said rape was okay. You are putting words in my mouth. Commending someone choosing the right way to pay for their sins is a rape apologist? Where is the logic in that?
But you are already set with your perspective that nothing I say will get to you. Go off shitting yourself on a 2019 post.
I understand Hayafuji now. I believe he's a redeemable character at this point. I can imagine how cathartic it must be for him with Hara "forgiving" him. It's nasty but it can spark his self-redemption and maybe there's a chance for him not to become the same kind of father and husband to Minako and their child. Overcome his fear of himself and his resentment to women, esp Minako.
Hara is still not moving forward. She took a step but she was too weak for Misato's manipulation.
Misato-chan. The manipulative bitch. Whether she sent the photo OR not, she's being egotistic and manipulative. Unless she has a valid reason for her actions...via her brother probably, she's the worst character for me at this point. Worst than Minako, since she had her reasons.