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sourlime October 25, 2018 4:44 pm

I came to look for the link to the audio of Remnant... Didn't expect to see all this crap.

I am thankful that Niji is translating Remnant. I do appreciate RainDragon redrawing of the manga. Why? I do not see this as disrespecting Hasumi Hana. There are people that love her works to the point of translating it and reimagining it.

I don't understand how this became a playground. Just because someone stated that this is the truth- does not means it is. It's all speculations, does that makes anyone guilty? No it does not. Don't jump on anyone side without knowing any facts. Cyberbullying? Sure. Isn't that what everyone is doing now? This is a he says she says situation. Don't be drag into something that we do not know. Don't jump into something we should not be in.

Go ahead and down vote. I'm going to go and enjoy my audio of Remnant.

Responses
    Nini Niji October 25, 2018 9:09 pm

    About the uncensoring:
    We never said they're disrespecting Hasumi Hana. We just said that we like to stay true to the mangaka's art. We don't want to draw something WE want, when we know for a fact how the mangaka draws her dicku. Imagine we would put fully detailed dick into Sekaiichi for example...
    In Pendulum we didn't know, we hadn't seen her uncensored tanko dick before we started... because there was no tanko ^^ As soon as we saw, we changed them to respect her artstyle. Not like our readers don't get uncensored dicks. they're fully uncensored ^^
    Just a little info regarding our policies ^^

    Lee October 26, 2018 3:20 am

    I mean for raindragon to not only say this “here's a little factoid for you. Cyber-bullying is a term used for children who get pushed around online. There's a little intervention scene with mommie, daddie, teacher..... and maybe even a counselor! of both the little munchkins. Constructive guidance occurs, and that's how the legal issue of cyber-bullying is settled. It's not about adults, you idiots! Are you stupid or something??” But believe it too is a problem. For raindragon to not acknowledge they are cyber bullying is not okay. We were taught to stand up against bullies and to not ignore it. So that is why many people voiced their dissatisfaction and drama happened. To ignored it is allowing the bully to continue to harrass people.

    Lee October 26, 2018 3:39 am

    Also why wouldnt people stand up for themselves when lies are being spread and raindragon still refuses to acknowledge that they lied about anything. People can believe whatever version of truth they want but at the end of the day many people here believe in ninis truth and not of a liar who continues to play a victim. At the end of the day people should speak out about lies that are being spread around.

    sourlime October 26, 2018 4:55 am

    @Niji- I already read the reason to why Remnant and Pendulum redraw are different. I also believe that truthfully, if another person redraw it any other way it's not really disrespecting the author works. There is always fan art of a lot of other work of art. It doesn't have to be exactly the way the author want it to be. It's just giving life and aspiration to an author's work. I don't see what is wrong, but then that is my believe in everyone creativity. I enjoy the author works. I will buy it when it comes out in English and giggle while reading it. I will look at Raindragon drawings. I will appreciate anyone and everyone that helps me able to read this manga before it's release in English.

    I do appreciate your group for translating this. I do appreciate Silent for translating it in Vietnamese. I read both version.

    @Lee- I truly don't understand how is my post not to your liking? Lies and truth. Did Mangago Admin confirmed who was the user that reported Niji PR? Isn't it all now still speculations? I don't think Mangago would care enough to announce that either. I rather just stay neutral and enjoy reading Yaoi.

    Everyone has the right to stand up for themselves. Raindragon also stood up to state they're not the one. Was that not to defend oneself? But when does cyber bullying really happen? The moment someone stand up for themselves? The moment when a group of stranger stand together? The moment when someone claims it's cyber bullying? It's all about perspective.

    Sometime it's better to solve certain situation in private. If Niji group believes that Raindragon did it. It is their problem. Let's not get involve. Let's just enjoy our reading hobbies. If you want, I found the link to Remnant translated CD. It's very good, and much better than this drama.

    Nini Niji October 26, 2018 5:53 am
    @Niji- I already read the reason to why Remnant and Pendulum redraw are different. I also believe that truthfully, if another person redraw it any other way it's not really disrespecting the author works. There... sourlime

    We didn't go public with this. I usually solve disputes in private, but luckily, I don't have many of those. With this one it makes three in 3 years of scanlation xD
    I was forced to act by their false statements because people started panicking, contacting me here and on tumbler because they believed that person. I had no choice.

    People can do whatever they want. We don't mind if others redraw dicks of the projects we're working on. I already said that we don't even care if others would start scanlating it. We have no exclusive rights, this is scanlation. A hobby. ^^ i never said anything against them redrawing the Hasumi Hana dicks. Ever. We just don't want that for our scanlation because of our policies. That's all we said.

    Again: I never accused them. I never said they reported us. Ever.

    Nini Niji October 26, 2018 5:55 am
    I mean for raindragon to not only say this “here's a little factoid for you. Cyber-bullying is a term used for children who get pushed around online. There's a little intervention scene with mommie, daddie, t... Lee

    I second that. Because I have my own little group of haters that keeps harrassing me for months now. Sending me anon asks on tumblr, Telling me to kill myself and threatening to kill me and cut my dogs throat and lovely things like that... Cyberbullying is definitely a thing that doesn't know age. It's not only something kids do to each other.

    Nini Niji October 26, 2018 6:07 am

    Also: You're kinda making it sound as if I'm making things up just to make them look bad when all i did was stating facts. I even put proof of everything in my post. Even a copy of the comment Ash made to them. All fom their own PUBLIC posts. I never spread false rumors.

    raindragon October 26, 2018 7:26 am
    Also: You're kinda making it sound as if I'm making things up just to make them look bad when all i did was stating facts. I even put proof of everything in my post. Even a copy of the comment Ash made to them.... Nini Niji

    you horrible, morally bankrupt person. You sure as hell did accuse me. I sat here reading your announcement so fully designed to assassinate my character. My stomach dropped, my heart was pounding, and you expected me to sort out at that moment that you were saying you were pulling away from mangago only. It sounded like you were saying you were still planning to do all of hasumi's omegaverse works except Remnant. If your little groupies were all panicked and contacting you, it's on you. It's because YOU misled them just like you misled me. You keep trying to implicate me when it's so obvious to the point of absurdity that none of this was my doing. Why would I lie about what you're planning to scanlate, translate, or post? I have no reason to "spread lies" or make "false statements" It's ridiculous! What you and your overblown ego do has nothing to do with me! What your followers think is your responsibility to take care of. You say you had no choice. Oh Brother!!! Do you know how ridiculous that sounds to me, who has nothing whatsoever to do with any of this???? Why would I lie about something I know nothing about, only what YOU YOURSELF said in your own words?? Do you even have half a clue how bad a person you look like to me. You deliberately take aim at me and then deliberately say I lie then deliberately find a million ugly ways to malign me. You're a terrible mean nasty person for all of the crap you've been trying to pull on me. I'm completely innocent. COMPLETELY INNOCENT!!! I didn't do a THING to you or lebitchPRash. Not one single thing! Nothing! I tried to reason with you. I tried to be as nice as I could. I took time to write you a whole letter laying out every little bit of my involvement with AshPR, which was next to nothing. I took time out from my work because I thought I could resolve this peacefully with you if you understood that I had nothing to do with this stupid reporting thing. Instead you went nutso murder victim all over me for. You're a vicious, mean, nasty person and I frankly hate your guts. You just keep on and on. I AM A victim. I did nothing so shut up about me!!

    Nini Niji October 26, 2018 7:35 am

    I never accused you of reporting us but ok.

    You're innocent? Cute. Keep telling yourself that.

    Sure I'm evil. Whatever floats your boat. Luckily most people look through your act and know and acknowledge the truth ^^

    Nucha October 26, 2018 7:52 am
    you horrible, morally bankrupt person. You sure as hell did accuse me. I sat here reading your announcement so fully designed to assassinate my character. My stomach dropped, my heart was pounding, and you e... raindragon

    So can you shut the fuck up now? Or do you wanna stroke your ego a bit more honey? Boo hoo i feel so awfully bad for you, there is a single tear strolling down my face. You are a fucking bitch thats what you are. The first post nini did mentioned no names at all yet you felt it was directed to you, why? Why would you if you were not guilty at all? Stop talking, you are so incredible dumb and stupid, what else do you want? You literally made a post lying after nini said they werent dropping it. You can now try to pretend you handt seen it all you want, but anyone with half a brain can see you are just trying to look a bit better. So in conclusion, please go fuck yourself and keep drawing your ugly ass art and calling yourself a “manga artist like hana sensei”ヾ(☆▽☆)

    Nini Niji October 26, 2018 8:17 am

    I posted this in the wrong thread, so here again:

    You're everything but a victim and innocent and i have proof of that. You're vengeful and deceiving and manipulative. And an actor.
    Never had to deal with someone like you before and i hope this will be the last time.

    1. You emailed me. I didn't have time to reply so you posted here publicly.
    2. Ash told you our policies in her reply to your post.
    3. You didn't like that and got into an argument with her.
    4. Her account got reported and deleted, so we decided to retreat from this platform.
    5. You got into an argument with me, suddenly accusing me of accusing you, which i never did.
    6. You sent an email, to which i replied.
    7. Right after I clearly stated (written in all caps) that we are not dropping remnant after you implied that we would in my thread, you went and made a new thread saying that we are dropping remnant. It's been deleted but i still have the screenshot!
    8. People came over to our tumblr panicking because of your false statement after i clearly said that we're not dropping it!
    9. I was forced to do something that's against my beliefs and make a post! And since you went public there was no point in hiding your name right? Because this whole comment section is full of your bs! Clearly visible for everyone!

    And now you're telling me you're a victim? Okay fine. Be a victim.

    Lee October 26, 2018 8:45 am
    @Niji- I already read the reason to why Remnant and Pendulum redraw are different. I also believe that truthfully, if another person redraw it any other way it's not really disrespecting the author works. There... sourlime

    Uhh.... i dont know about you but reading all of raindragons comments doesnt sound like they are innocent at all..... you say for people not to get involved yet even before all this raindragon was already making themselves look bad with all the hate towards the authors works but it got deleted because it got many downvotes. I’ve seen people state their dissatisfaction and telling raindragon to stop posting those same threads over and over again and raindragons comments were telling people to have their morals checked again, that they are becoming a little fascist just because someone didnt agree with raindragons dislike for daaths hair cut. So how is that justifed as defending themselves. raindragon brought it on themself and showed everyone who the real bully was. They talk about them being nice but have you seen any comments that were nice..? All i saw was a toxic human being and is still not stopping even now.

    Nini Niji October 26, 2018 9:01 am

    Again, I second that. I got SO many messages on tumblr of people who were complaining about her actions here even before everything started. Never experienced something like that before. Judging from all that, it shouldn't have been Ash who got kicked from this platform.

    Nini Niji October 26, 2018 9:15 am

    Sorry, I used female pronouns again dammit.

    sourlime October 26, 2018 6:39 pm

    I logged into check on Bj Alex.... Didn't read any of the message just want to type this first. WTF...

    I read the first few replies. Scan through the rest... Girls and guys that are reading Yaoi with dicks going at each other. Let's just be honest, and very honest. Let's just enjoy it. This whole situation is completely out of proportion. If we average our ages, everyone one of us should be ashamed to act like children. I am not taking side. I'm not here to tell you who is right or who is wrong, or what the hell is going on either. I am here to tell everyone to calm down this will always be just online. Once you step away, nothing should matter. We do not know each other in real life. We cannot judge each other. We should not condemn anyone. Facts or lies. Is everyone proud of what they type?

    Sure. Let's go with the whole why can't we all get along? We all have the same hobby? We all love the same thing? From personal experience- I was able to meet someone in my scan group in real life for lunch. It was amazing to have someone else to speak to about Yaoi. Currently this thread is public. If anyone has anything to say to me about my perspective, feel free to message me, but please do remember at the end of the day. I will still continue reading this manga. I will still like this manga. I am not a child. I refuse to act like a child.

    Please don't use this thread anymore.... -.- Just calm down and go stares are some dicks.

    raindragon October 26, 2018 6:52 pm
    I mean for raindragon to not only say this “here's a little factoid for you. Cyber-bullying is a term used for children who get pushed around online. There's a little intervention scene with mommie, daddie, t... Lee

    LeBitch you so dumb! LOL When was the last time an adult said, "waaa waaa, they're bullying me. help help! I got bullied!"

    Childhood bullying has a devastating effect on its victim even into adulthood, but bullying is a term for something experienced in childhood.

    raindragon October 26, 2018 7:19 pm
    I logged into check on Bj Alex.... Didn't read any of the message just want to type this first. WTF... I read the first few replies. Scan through the rest... Girls and guys that are reading Yaoi with dicks goin... sourlime

    sourlime is someone we should listen to if we were smart. She always has intelligent, interesting comments. There's a few members with something intelligent to say, if I can recall...yaoisanctuary, mericurious (sp) also deserve some thanks for bringing up the IQ level here.

    Nini Niji October 26, 2018 7:33 pm
    I logged into check on Bj Alex.... Didn't read any of the message just want to type this first. WTF... I read the first few replies. Scan through the rest... Girls and guys that are reading Yaoi with dicks goin... sourlime

    "I will still continue reading this manga. I will still like this manga."
    All this has nothing to do with the Remnant series itself. It would be a shame if anyone would stop liking the series just because of stupid drama over some hurt pride.

    "Is everyone proud of what they type?"
    I'm neither proud nor ashamed of what I wrote. I stand behind everything I say 100%. Wether it's being considered bad or good, that doesn't matter.

    "this will always be just online"
    Please rest assured that that person's despitefulness and their insults and lies do not affect my personal life. xD And I hope that goes for everyone they insulted today and in the past.

    "I was able to meet someone in my scan group in real life for lunch. It was amazing to have someone else to speak to about Yaoi."
    I feel you. I was lucky enough to have been visited by a group member and several people I met via tumblr who are on my discord now. It's fantastic, but that doesn't mean that every yaoi fan is a nice and awesome person. Some people are just assholes. I can show you my inbox if you like. The people trying to bully me call themselves yaoi fans as well.
    BUT the most important thing is that MOST of the people in this community are kind and loving and very very sweet. I wouldn't be a scanlator if that wasn't the case, because I do this for people like them, not for the bullies ^^

    "Please don't use this thread anymore"
    I will respect that and not reply to their comments in your thread anymore. :)

    raindragon October 26, 2018 8:25 pm
    Sorry, I used female pronouns again dammit. Nini Niji

    I actually appreciate you saying this,

    raindragon October 27, 2018 6:06 am
    Uhh.... i dont know about you but reading all of raindragons comments doesnt sound like they are innocent at all..... you say for people not to get involved yet even before all this raindragon was already makin... Lee

    hey, lee, I still hate that outdated, sassoon, rosemary's baby, horrorshow haircut on my sweet angel, daato. He doesn't deserve to get made into a big-boned scalped phyllis diller look-alike. Bahahahahaha.