I understand also but the rape tag could of apply to anyone or anyone else not the two main characters, it could of been a bad memory of a tragedy etc but as I said it would of been better if it was treated as rape and not a device to make the main have early sex.I don't mind that you guys like it its just thinking how this poor guy must of felt it was a bit scary he was suddenly attacked,said no more that once,fought back,tried to lock himself in the bathroom,his attacker practically ripped the door open and raped him shit if that was me ...................shiver.I liked how in the anime as I said it was removed and at the end he simply told him how he felt and then they had consensual sex,that alone make me think the seme wasn't bad as I thought he is actually very kind and lovable.lol
True, a rape tag could mean a variety of things. But, if it was a rape that happened in a character's past-- it would probably have the #traumaticpast #childtrauma or something like that. Idk. It simply gets annoying when there's a whole bunch of peeps whining about a manga series. True, he did rape him. And apologized. And most manga I have read from this author is smut and rape-y for the most part. So, like I said before- go read Irony Dress or Yamete Kudasai or Suki de Gomen. All of those are cute. None have rape. 2 are shounen-ai. Ba-bye.
I absolutely agree with the “fiction is fiction” thing, it’s up there with the “don’t like, don’t read” line. Ppl shouldn’t be made to feel bad about themselves coz of what they read. I’m pretty sure there a few, if any, trained psychologist or therapist on here but even they couldn’t give a psych evaluation for name on a screen so others should just butt out.
But the misconception that “you don’t react (get hard, get wet) during a rape.” Is very false. You can, not all the time but it happens. The reaction is due the body’s physical response to touch. That line of thinking is why a lot of rapes don’t get reported or charged, the victim feels ashamed for “enjoying it” (they don’t, just a physical reaction, can’t emphasise that enough) and/or someone telling them that it wasn’t rape if they reacted like that.
It’s probably the only thing that annoys me in some yaoi when the Seme tells the uke that because they got hard, they are enjoying it and the uke just giving in coz he thinks he should.
But hey, that’s a trope and again FICTION.
Wasn’t meaning to preach at you if it sounded like that sorry.
Hmm i dont think rapes arent reported not because "they feel ashamed" of "enjoying it. I know someome who experienced this before, she dis not say it to her family because it was one of her family members, and because she doesnt want to ruin their family's reputation and she might end up the talk of the town(sorry my english is bad), and this country where we live in, they always blame the victims.
But anyway, yeah, it's a fiction. It's already a common sense that its not real nor you have to do it in real life, cause that would be idiotic.
Ah, I knew I should have added the “in some cases” that’s why some ppl don’t report, my bad. It’s more common with guys, tho they’re report status is in the low numbers anyway because “men don’t get rape”. Like dude, seriously?
I’ve had that “fiction vs real life” agreement with so many ppl, on here and out there. God forbid you being e fact that some on these stories actually can help rape victims in certain case. It gives them a sense of control they thought they lost
I pointed out to someone here once who was going on about “all yoai involves rape, it’s disgusting.” That if the (usually) Seme stops at “no” there will be no story. Who wants to read about the main couple not becoming a couple and parting ways in the first chapter. I love any yaoi with a good plot regardless of the “rape” scenes (sometimes that makes the story) As for the “paint by number” stories, meh, I’ll read them or gloss over them but want trash others for liking them.
To be honest, i wouldnt really call them retards at all. But I got pissed at those people who insults us, who doesn't mind rape/incest and any other tags. Like there was even a person who said in an incest manga: "Those people who like and read this kind of story and says that incest wincest because it's just fiction, are those kind of people who would fuck their relatives because they are sexy." ha? Seriously? I never once thought of fucking my own relatives, but that person started saying such things? And then there is also some people who says that we get something in the books and adapt it in real life, thats why we shouldnt like incest. Come on, its just a fiction :< we know how to differentiate reality from fantasy. And you are stupid if you do incest in real life
Yes.
Like I said, when they can show proof they’re qualified to do a psych evaluation for screen accounts then I’ll hear them out, i won’t agree with them coz I study that stuff (never went further with it so I’m not qualified either) and I can guarantee no professional will say reading this stuff, fiction or not would mean or into incest, rape, murder, etc. unless you are already in that mind set and fantasising about doing it in real life. It those ppl that make others think everyone is like it. “One person has a screw loose, they can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality and they did something horrible so everyone who read that stuff must have the potential to do the same.l
It drives me nuts when ppl blame video games, movies and the like for their kids “going violent” or “committing crimes”. It’s basically saying they can’t think for themselves and will have lame excuses to fall back on. And proves some parents rather blame outside influences than take responsibility of raising their kid. But that’s a whole new can of worms right there.
Sorry to hear about ur friend, I live in Australia too and know some people who’ve been in similar situations. It is horrible and scary even as an outside party. A friend of mine was raped when she was nine and over two decades later the same guy was still doing that shit and was being charged, her name got tossed in the mix so all those memories are front and centre again.
She had a choice, take her case to court and relive that horror and the guy might get jail time or don’t and while the guy won’t go to jail, he’ll never be near kids again. While it’ll be good for him to get what he deserves (we all know what happens to pedifiles in prison) I think as long as he can’t hurt anymore kids it’ll be ok to spare my friend that pain.
But that kinda proves the point, this stuff (rape, murder, etc) happens in our actual lives be it personally or someone we know and we can still treat it as the horrible act and that the offender is a piece of human filth while still read fictional stories about that same thing and think “goddamn that Seme is hot”. It won’t change our way of thinking, they’re just stories.
Could say the same for you rape is gross, you like it then read it no one is stopping you, just like you can't stop people who are grossed by it and comment, don't like those comments don't read them ignore them idk, bye.
Look no need to be saying go read this or that it makes you come of as an jerk I did not ask you to recommend anything to me so you can keep it to yourself,the comment section is free for anyone to express their opinion and as I said I don't care if you guys like it or not but the point is everyone should get a say in what they like or hate about the manga you will never get a comment section full of only praise for any manga there will be stuff some people like that others hate.DON'T LET IT HIT YOU............
Woah there! Okay then-- I was recommending them as a friendly offer- since it seemed you and the other miss didn't seem to like this one. Wasn't trying to be a jerk. And there is a limit to how far an opinion should go. A simple. "Wasn't my cup of tea" would suffice. The other miss had said the same things you did. I was annoyed that 2 people were saying the exact same thing. I apologize for any harm/ offense I caused.
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There is already a rape tag and some retards still read this and rant *facepalm*do u know what a fiction is? Something that is opposed to facts. And yaoi is a fiction, and every impossible thing is possible in yaoi(hence, omegaverse and other things). You read this just to entertain yourself,so why would u put it in real life aspect? Does that mean there is an omegaverse in real life? Vampires? Werewolves? Etc etc. *smh* these people probably haven't read Harada's works and other authors out there with more twisted stories than this(but dakaretai isn't tqisted at all). So if you dont want this trope, guys shoo, let us enjoy it! Its hard to enjoy such novels/stories/mangas when you get to suddenly read annoying comments!