Ryoko Nicole

youraedthiswrogn October 4, 2018 2:14 am

Honestly, i'm on your side as far as the bullying goes, but for you to put a page into the translation literally only about an argument you had with a rando who was being an asshole is pretty... Unprofessional? I know it's not literally your profession, but i think i'm getting the point across. It looks kind of cringy. I started reading ch 4 and stopped to write this because i saw that page.

Responses
    Morgiana October 4, 2018 7:38 am
    Yes, within their group on tumblr, we went over this. I said and have been saying specifically "within the translation", if you can cite some pages that other groups have left in their translations, feel free. ... youraedthiswrogn

    U saying “Within their group” is misleading. Be it public on tumblr addressing readers or on the release, does it matter? It’s still addressing us readers right? You act like the release is published work you subscribed & paid for, like there’s a rule ,,,SHOW ME,,,, that says it’s not allowed to be done. Or even an unspoken rule. Where is it? But anyway..Who cares? Scroll past the page. Get over it. Why can’t the group let the masses know they’re unfazed & will continue to do what they’re doing?

    youraedthiswrogn October 4, 2018 7:39 am
    But doesn’t it? The group is responding to the ppl that have an issue with the colour pages. And your remark is about them addressing those ppl. So it all ties together.... ...Try addressing the ppl that ar... Morgiana

    No, it doesn't. The colored pages weren't mentioned as i have no issue with them. The colored pages are also entirely irrelevant to what i'm discussing, that being whether or not it was professional to post that jab page within the translation.

    A La Mode Yaoi Fellatio October 4, 2018 7:45 am
    Talk to some groups to find out how they do things, i'm just saying this from the perspective of a reader who has seen groups argue in the mangago comments section about how the other group is being disrespectf... youraedthiswrogn

    Where are the rules? You’re talking about common courtesy among scan groups to each other. What rule says a scan group can’t post what credit page or announcement they want?
    How does what a group post for their announcement affect another scan group? You’re just making things up now, and those are COMPLETELY different scenarios. Scan groups arguing over a title/story & a scan group doing their own announcement that has no influence or effect on another group have no correlation. Stop mixing things up to meet your vague & shabby point.

    A La Mode Yaoi Fellatio October 4, 2018 7:47 am
    No, it doesn't. The colored pages weren't mentioned as i have no issue with them. The colored pages are also entirely irrelevant to what i'm discussing, that being whether or not it was professional to post tha... youraedthiswrogn

    So when jabbed initially the group should just take the pokes and not poke back? Blah blah, Balogne!

    youraedthiswrogn October 4, 2018 7:48 am
    U saying “Within their group” is misleading. Be it public on tumblr addressing readers or on the release, does it matter? It’s still addressing us readers right? You act like the release is published work... Morgiana

    Within the translation is no place to be arguing with the comments section (not "addressing the readers", lets not sugarcoat exactly what that page was there for)... Idrc if you agree with me on that as it's obviously unprofessional.

    youraedthiswrogn October 4, 2018 7:52 am
    Where are the rules? You’re talking about common courtesy among scan groups to each other. What rule says a scan group can’t post what credit page or announcement they want? How does what a group post for t... A La Mode Yaoi Fellatio

    Are you going to cite even a single example of another scan group doing what Ryoko Nicole just did? As far as "where is the unspoken rule", i've already said that i've never seen another translator post a jab page like that within their translation, the fact that there are no other examples is proof of the unspoken rule. The next natural step here is one YOU have to take, go prove me wrong by finding a page like Ryoko Nicole's.

    youraedthiswrogn October 4, 2018 7:53 am
    So when jabbed initially the group should just take the pokes and not poke back? Blah blah, Balogne! A La Mode Yaoi Fellatio

    No, if you've read my responses i've said that her retorting isn't the issue, it's how long she sat there arguing with the comments section before posting that jab page.

    Blackie October 4, 2018 7:55 am
    Constructive criticism is constructive criticism, if you're just telling them how you think it could be done better with no ill intent, it's constructive criticism. Shitting on the colored pages isn't construct... youraedthiswrogn

    It’s not constructive criticism
    Constructive criticism is constructive, not rude
    + also I guess I should be apologizing for my reply to the other topic, I guess I misunderstood something

    youraedthiswrogn October 4, 2018 7:56 am

    My topic is specifically about whether or not it was professional of her to post that jab page. Not even whether or not it was, it just was. That's like if i worked at taco bell and wrote "fuck you -insert name-" on the glass because they pissed me off and i knew they'd see it...

    Blackie October 4, 2018 7:57 am
    Within the translation is no place to be arguing with the comments section (not "addressing the readers", lets not sugarcoat exactly what that page was there for)... Idrc if you agree with me on that as it's ob... youraedthiswrogn

    But I don’t really agree with you
    Because one person with a lot of accounts is harassing the scanlation and it still goes on
    The team can’t just stay and watch calmly when they’re obviously insulted by an immature kid who keeps harassing the group and anyone with a different opinion

    youraedthiswrogn October 4, 2018 7:58 am
    It’s not constructive criticism Constructive criticism is constructive, not rude + also I guess I should be apologizing for my reply to the other topic, I guess I misunderstood something Blackie

    Yeah, they were rude to Ryoko Nicole, i also said that wasn't constructive criticism and if you look at this topic i also say "Ryoko Nicole. Honestly, i'm on your side as far as the bullying".

    Blackie October 4, 2018 8:00 am

    Besides that, why don’t everyone try to understand they’re doing it, illegally and use their money ( despite all the hard work and effort they put in their work)for you to read it for free
    If you want to criticize, just do it, but there’s no ‘must’

    youraedthiswrogn October 4, 2018 8:00 am
    But I don’t really agree with you Because one person with a lot of accounts is harassing the scanlation and it still goes on The team can’t just stay and watch calmly when they’re obviously insulted by an... Blackie

    They already argued though, you think it makes sense for them to just keep going? Everytime that anon shitposts? Say something and be done, don't keep arguing, it makes a scene. I don't ever see translators argue in the comments section like this.

    Blackie October 4, 2018 8:02 am

    Like, they’re even harassing people who have different opinions, let alone the team
    I think this person or as she/he mentioned, *these people* really should stop because this is getting annoying
    Even if their criticism was constructive, what’s the point of being rude to people who haven’t done anything to him/her and whining on every comment section?

    youraedthiswrogn October 4, 2018 8:03 am
    Besides that, why don’t everyone try to understand they’re doing it, illegally and use their money ( despite all the hard work and effort they put in their work)for you to read it for free If you want to cr... Blackie

    Yes, i agree. That isn't what anyone here is arguing. I agree that constructive criticism is fine, but being ungrateful isn't. We're in agreement. You're actually talking about other things. I'm trying to say that nicely.

    Blackie October 4, 2018 8:04 am
    They already argued though, you think it makes sense for them to just keep going? Everytime that anon shitposts? Say something and be done, don't keep arguing, it makes a scene. I don't ever see translators arg... youraedthiswrogn

    People have different reactions I guess
    But I don’t think it matters if they stop or not, whoever this person is, they’re probably looking for attention

    youraedthiswrogn October 4, 2018 8:06 am
    People have different reactions I guess But I don’t think it matters if they stop or not, whoever this person is, they’re probably looking for attention Blackie

    That's not how reality works, it's considered immature and unsightly to keep an argument going like that.