Probably is for the gap moe thing. Rape puts the victim into a state of shock too, so they may not be able to fight back even if they’re stronger.
i disagree with the last thing. when u r about to get raped its like if u r about to get killed, u will do everything in ur power to prevent it instictively. the "shock" phase is during the rape and its true that some people cant defend themselves during the action. but if u like the guy and u r between yes or no thats another thing. some victims tend to refuse that it was actually rape due to the fact that they were too intimate with the person.
What I said refers to men getting raped. People often ask how a man could get raped if they’re the stronger of the sexes, and it is due to shock. It can go either this way, or the fight or flight adrenaline response as you said.
i dont believe that someone would actually stay still due to shock though, sure u would be shocked but ur instincts come first...but yes sometimes it can happen.
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I'm not asking my question in order to question the validity of men experiencing rape or sexual assault, as everyone's reactions or experience with sexual violence differs. TMI i've been sexually assaulted myself and yes I've experienced that moment of frozen shook it's common for individuals where the event happens for the first time. My issue is the gap in personality that allows them to turned into a submissive character solely for the sexual pleasure of another character. They're OOC for the sake of that moment and I don't understand it. Yaoi already relies on unequal power dynamics through the forced categorization of uke and seme, but it's as if the delinquent simply being themselves is seen as a threat so they're essentially castrated to restore the hierarchy.
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As for men being raped and shock having a role in it, it's primarily because male rape is so taboo. The perpetrators of this stigma unfortunately mainly falls on men. Female on male rape is actually the more common of the two that will induce the shock you speak of, because of little merit it is given.Men are more likely not to speak out about being raped by a women than a man. However male on male rape depending on the severity and situation is handled case by case on a individual level based on the victims' experience and various factors (their age, their size, how close they were to their assailant , the environment, etc).It's the same for male on female rape in this regard simply because of the violence of forcibly being taken against your will.
without the "can" ugh its so early.
Yaoi logic is completely different to normal logic. Chalk it up to that. There is a yaoi I read where delinquent tops + essentially rapes but tbf the bottom was also a delinquent, a shit one at that, so yeah...
i personally agree but lets face it, yaoi mangas serve mainly the purpose of satisfying young women. due to that, everything is centered around sex and the authors dont pay much attention in order to build an actual male character. (i cant write a sentence sorry, i only slept for 2 hours ).
:(( i hope you can sleep more.
i dont think i can... i just drank some coffee cause i have work to do :/
The thing is, i've learned to hold my breath when it comes to yaoi and it's relationship with sexual violence it is what is for the most part you can't even deny that rape=love for most mangakas. My issue is when authors utilize a specific archetype like the delinquent and not even use a delinquent but some butchered version of it. As for tops delinquents or bottom ones I have no issue at all in their sexual role that's the beauty of gay sex, it's rather forced change in a character's characterization so that they're reduced in what essentially defines them. I'd even tolerate the delinquent on delinquent rape because that while violent makes sense in a weird way because it falls into place with the nature of delinquent hierarchy. It's like the equivalent of prison rape, the point is establish dominance and dehumanize their victim. Maybe it's because I'm tied up in the need for authors to actually take sexual violence seriously or even how it would play out with certain characters and am always let down by the character accommodating once again to inequality for the sake of their "love interest"
also go to sleep. just ignore me and my ranting.
haha wish i could but i need to file some papers+ buy a gift for a friend.
best of luck!
thank u<3
Just wondering is it a standard for most yaoi to have the delinquent = "a bitch in heat". I'm not against feminine men at all, but for some reason I thought the point of the delinquent character was suppose to be their hyper masculinity, but this is always usurped to make them quote on quote the "slutty uke". Is it just because they're considered an archetype of masculinity, there's the to appeal have them be feminized? Because it's not even a question of uke vs seme not having a place in homo relationships, but rather the character completely becoming submissive for otherwise no apparent reason to reinstate heteronormative roles. Let's be real they're pushed into an entirely different personality with the introduction of their love interest. Maybe it's the moe? Because I always find it slightly weird when they so easily are overpowered or often times raped by their traditional average joe or just pretty boy ikemen counterpart. Like what happened to all their muscles, is that all for show?