Yes, certainly. I talked about Ryan being prepared to pass away in my previous post too -> http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/3261072/
I’ll try to summarize my thoughts in just a paragraph: Ryan has lived for so long that there isn't more he feels he needs to experience. Ryan did acknowledge that he's amazed memories exist at all. Ryan seemed sad that he was unable to recall details though, like the time he went to Cecilia's mansion to discuss their arranged marriage with her mother, and when he couldn't remember his conversation with Beth at the end of chapter 61... :( For servants/ordinary people, memories fading happens to us too, but we may experience less of that because of our shorter life years. But the fact that Ryan cannot recall what he wants to remember...living forever is not the ideal life to be honest. How significant is it that you could live forever if your memories fade? When you live forever, you don't cherish your time (anymore) because it's limitless, and you lose your purpose to living. If Ryan feels his purpose is to protect those who are dear to him, then he's already done it, or they've already passed away... Ryan is ready to rest in peace.
But I just don't want to see Ryan die, and then see Lucaon and Sihan cry, and for Cecilia to live on without her dear friend. ┗( T﹏T )┛Maybe Christoph's memories of Ryan would be removed by then, so our young boy won't grieve over his death... ╥﹏╥
I'm happy that a fellow reader feels the same way as me. :) If Ryan dies, I think he deserves a good death: peaceful and without regrets. Nothing left on Earth that Ryan feels he needs to fulfill. But if Ryan could continue living, I would be very happy. ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~ There's just so much more Christoph and Ryan could do together, now that Christoph is no longer brainwashed by Edwin to fulfill Intron's missions. Sihan could be at ease at knowing his guardian won't die, and Lucaon won't lose another precious family member (Ryan is family in Lucaon's heart <3) Cecilia and Ryan could still confide in each other.
Wow, thank you so much! I'm glad that what I said resonated with you, and perhaps, is how you feel too. :) If Ryan dies, we could cry together (lol). I'll see you in a future discussion thread if Ryan dies. (/TДT)/ It would hurt me more if until the end, Ryan is still thinking of other people. ╥﹏╥
I know we could argue that Lucaon was rescued because he's the main character and Christoph (the culprit) was alive to purify Lucaon's core, but LOL, doesn't that mean anything is possible?? I know it may seem pointless to hope for a cure to the VS solution, since the royal bloods have been researching for years (probably centuries) without finding an ultimate cure, but there may be a secret medicine lying somewhere! ┗( T﹏T )┛Maybe Beth left a secret note behind? LOL, I don't care if we have poor storytelling later, I just want Ryan to survive! ┗( T﹏T )┛
Thanks to your post I understood the story better. I have to confess at the beginning I was quite pissed at Cristoph for killing Lucaon's family, but I have understood that he was just another victim of Intron and he didn't do it on purpose, I think Cristoph is never going to be happy even if the memories of Ryan are erased :(.
I am saddened for Ryan, I think he loved his sister very much, and he did what he had to do in order to protect her, and for that he must feel guility about the deaths of Lucaon's parents because he did nothing to stop the development of the VS solution. Anyway, see you in the discussion of the next chapter, let's hope it is not too sad.
I didn't know I loved Ryan so much until chapters 60-61 arrived. ┗( T﹏T )┛Even at the end of chapter 59, when Ryan patted Christoph's head and told our young boy, "Don't cry," there was so much tenderness! In the same chapter, Ryan told Cecilia, "Don't look at him like that. You're scaring him." RYAN, WHY DIDN'T YOU GET MARRIED AND HAVE CHILDREN?? I'd love to see little (or younger) Ryans ╥﹏╥... When tears continued to flow anyway, Ryan just said softly, "I told you not to cry. But you cry even more" in chapter 60. I was at a loss for words. :((
If I was Christoph, I would be crying a river LOL!! If I was Christoph, I would hate myself for hurting Lucaon and killing Lucaon's parents, and then I would feel even worse because Ryan still loves me despite my actions. Thank goodness Christoph doesn't know Ryan is dying and that our young boy destroyed Ryan's cure! ;--------; Though of course, Christoph was controlled by Edwin, so he shouldn't blame himself severely... Now that Christoph is not acting on Intron's behalf, does that mean we could expect less problems?? Intron needs to get exterminated somehow. ( ̄へ ̄)
I want the creators to spare our poor hearts LOL. Royal Servant has been a roller coaster with so many characters being close to death (Kyon, Lucaon, Karis, and Lucaon may have killed Christoph if not for Sihan's intervention), so I want Ryan to be the next person to live. If there is a cure found for the VS solution, that would be a hallelujah moment for the royal bloods!ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ Maybe someone who contributed to creating the VS solution is still alive??
If there is no cure to the VS solution, the toxic division between royal bloods and servants won’t end. Royal bloods may have more reason to hate servants because the royal bloods are vulnerable to the VS solution. If the VS solution was made with the intention of killing ALL royal bloods, then shouldn’t they all be dead by now? The fact that the VS solution has been around for centuries and there are still powerful royal bloods alive, like Cecilia and the rest of the Dominus family, speaks volumes on how the servants may not have always had successful attempts or plans. Edwin even sent TWO people to live with royal bloods, but still failed because Kyon loves Lucaon and didn’t want to hurt the latter, while Christoph wanted to stay with Ryan and had no genuine desire to hurt the people our young mixed-blood was living with. Is sending servants to live with royal bloods the only way to harm royal bloods? How did servants originally harm royal bloods centuries ago? Did the royal bloods kill whoever they found to be part of the organization that created the VS solution? Indeed, there is still more we could learn about the history of servants and royal bloods, and how both sides dealt with the VS solution.
^ So, LOL, I’m hoping that we could find a way to cure Ryan. It would be tragic to end the story by claiming that there is no solution to the VS solution because the royal bloods don’t have enough knowledge. If people are alive, there will always be conflict. Even if all royal bloods get killed, servants would eventually have problems with each other…
Although, I feel comforted that if Ryan does die, he would be at peace. :)
Wow, I'm honoured that you understood the story better thanks to me. I feel more motivated to make future discussion threads!ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~
I think it's understandable to be upset at Christoph's actions. When Lucaon had his hand around Christoph's throat after the latter purified our main character's core, I can't say I was surprised. :| After all, Lucaon was so traumatized when his parents and servants died that he almost became a zero, if not for Ryan rescuing our fragile boy. Of course, people could be mad at Christoph because the tragedy at the Selvior family's mansion made Lucaon forget all about little Kyon, who was waiting for our seme... Then of course, the tragedy influenced Lucaon to not trust servants anymore and became very distant, and he mistreated Kyon. Poor Kyon was used by Intron because Edwin knew Kyon was the little boy who was comforted by Lucaon, when our uke lost his family. So, I understand Christoph’s actions led to Lucaon’s tragedy and Kyon’s mistreatment from Lucaon, but we know the true criminal is Intron: Edwin used Christoph as his puppet. :/
It makes me sad to know that Christoph spent years of his life with Ryan and felt accepted at Sihan's mansion, but was never able to get too close with them because of his mission... When Christoph felt conflicted or touched by Ryan's kindness, he couldn't tell anyone and kept it to himself. Christoph tried his best to keep his distance too, like he would run to his room and have a blanket over his head whenever he was sick. I used to have the speculation that Ryan may be suspicious or scary, but really…Christoph was afraid for his own sake. Ryan kept showing care to Christoph; we saw moments when Ryan would place his hand on Christoph’s cheek when our mixed-blood was in bed, and Christoph would just have his head down, powerless to one touch…┗( T﹏T )┛I can't imagine how painful it must feel to want to stay with someone, yet being controlled to hurt the people around them when you don't want to...
Cecilia said in her monologue that Christoph feels no regret for his actions, but that he was only scared of losing what he had (being with Ryan + living in the mansion with Sihan and Karis). I think even if Christoph doesn't feel guilty for his actions, it's still very sad that he wanted to stay with the people who respected and cared for him, yet he knew he didn't have the autonomy to decide. :// Christoph could have left Sihan's mansion with Edwin ordering him to do so, but since Christoph resisted (didn't want to leave), that was why someone from Intron tried to kill Christoph. It's truly so heartless of Edwin to not even care for his younger brother (they're half-siblings, but still related and probably grew up together); once Christoph succeeded at poisoning Lucaon, Edwin was just ready to end Christoph's life because Christoph was no longer useful. ┗( T﹏T )┛Edwin valued his mission of murdering the last member of the Selvior family, over preserving his younger brother's life. But thank goodness Edwin failed since Christoph is still living and Lucaon is now saved. (▰˘◡˘▰)
Speaking of Christoph not being happy if he does forget Ryan... Have you heard Aimer's song, words? -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEGKDsaGlMo (the image is Nezumi and Shion from the series, No. 6) I started listening to it and reading the lyrics translations shortly after I made my posts on Ryan. I think we could see the lyrics from Christoph's perspective too... Knowing that you can't keep clinging to someone forever, yet they're still so much apart of you... The person left without saying goodbye and you can't stop yourself from loving them. Ryan just has a very significant place in Christoph's heart, I don't think anyone could ever replace Ryan's tender pat on the head, or Ryan's kiss to the forehead. Those are emotions that could never be replaced by someone else’s hand, even if Christoph someday tells himself that he needs to move forward. I think apart of Christoph would continue to cling to Ryan, even if Ryan is dead and removed from Christoph’s memories. :(
I’m concerned that our hypothesis would be proven to be true… Ryan said he knew Lucaon’s great-grandparents. If Lucaon’s great-grandparents were alive during the time the VS solution was being made, then I don’t think Ryan thought so far ahead in the future: centuries ago, I don’t think Ryan would have predicted that the VS solution would kill his friends’ future descendants, Lucaon’s parents and harm Lucaon too. If Ryan’s only priority was to protect Beth, then that’s a tragedy… :( It’s a tragedy when you have the desire to protect someone, and you never imagined that the consequences would lead to other loved ones being harmed in the far future. I doubt Ryan predicted that he would meet Christoph centuries later, who would be used as a tool to kill the very people Ryan’s close with, yet the culprit is the same person our dear royal blood would dote on and protect. So, I agree that Ryan feels guilty for not stopping the VS solution from advancing, when he saw its fatal effects on the Selvior family. Between protecting Beth and protecting his future loved ones, it makes sense for Ryan to prioritize his sister at the time. It would be unfair if Ryan is blamed for not stopping Beth because we know of the results of the VS solution now, but truly, centuries ago… They can’t know exactly what would happen in the future. (︶︿︶)
There’s more evidence of Ryan’s love for Beth since he was hesitant to marry Cecilia, because he feared what the Dominus family might do to Beth due to his sister being a mixed blood. :( Now, there are no mentions of Ryan being married, and Cecilia assumedly married and currently has living descendants. Instead of prioritizing keeping his family heritage alive and empowering the Chronos family by allying with the Dominus family, Ryan allowed their engagement to end. While investigations of the VS solution took place, Ryan could have told the Dominus family everything he knew and have them capture Beth, and then his marriage with Cecilia could have taken place. So, Ryan chose not to pursue a family and did not keep the Chronos name alive for Beth’s safety. ╥﹏╥
Haha, I love that you expect to see me in the future!! XD I hope I won’t sob too much to the point where I would be at a loss for words. But thank you for expecting me, I feel that you enjoy reading my thoughts. :)
You only used four words and an emoji, but I could see that you are feeling the same as the rest of us. ^ I don't know if you read all our replies as well. I hope that we have the strength to continue the story until the end. Ryan, please be saved and don't be removed from Christoph's memories!!! ┗( T﹏T )┛Thank you for reading my discussion thread and commenting. :)
I imagined something today: if Christoph's memories of Ryan get removed, he could still touch his forehead and blush. Christoph could still remember the warm sensation he received when Ryan kissed his forehead, but he would never remember the tender man who gave him that warmth... I think even if your mind forgets an event or even a person, your body could still remember. It just breaks my heart to picture that: a Christoph touching his forehead and feeling safe and secure from the action (Ryan's kiss to his forehead), but looking around and never being able to find the person who did it... :( You could erase people’s memories, but you can’t erase their feelings.
^ This is one reason why part of me does not want Christoph to forget Ryan. Even though Ryan wants Christoph to start a new life, which would be difficult right now due to Christoph's dependence on Ryan, I feel that removing Ryan from Christoph's memories may not be an ultimate solution... Forgetting Ryan may be the best that could be done for Christoph's sake, but it won't be perfect. It just breaks my heart to imagine a lost and even a confused Christoph, who has to start to build his own life when he was never given the autonomy before. Christoph doesn’t know how to live for himself yet, so it feels like he would be abandoned if he forgets Ryan. :’(
I made a post yesterday ( http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/3261072/), where I released my feelings about Ryan and his relations with Sihan, Cecilia, Lucaon, and Christoph. I didn't think my sadness for Ryan would carry on with me the next day... ┗( T﹏T )┛
I have a soft spot for guardians like Ryan. Ryan may not be a saint, since he didn't turn Sihan into a royal blood because he cared for Sihan's future, and he wasn't concerned about Kyon's well-being either when he wanted Kyon to leave Lucaon. However, I just can't stand the thought of losing Ryan because of how caring he is and all that he's done for the people who are dear to him.
Ryan treated Sihan as his son and guided Sihan in the world of royal bloods. Ryan and Cecilia have such a deep friendship, which we could see from the solid and affectionate embrace he gave her at the end of chapter 60 (Ryan is SO grateful to Cecilia throughout the centuries) + they trust each other very much since they help each other when there's trouble and they don't suspect each other's intentions. Ryan cares so much for Lucaon and he's patient, considering that he ran to the Selvior family's mansion and rescued Lucaon, and was accepting of Lucaon even after our seme was quite bluntly...rude.
But OMG...even though Ryan suspected Christoph, he didn't tell Cecilia. I believe that was Ryan's way of protecting Christoph. Ryan continued to treat Christoph with so much care and gentleness, which confused Christoph so much. Christoph couldn't understand why Ryan was so tender to our younger boy. Maybe Ryan sees similarities between Beth and Christoph when he looks at Christoph, but I think Ryan had a feeling Christoph did not have ill will (and he was right), so he did his best in protecting Christoph in his own way. The fact that Ryan doesn't want Christoph to know that our young mixed-blood murdered the culprit who could have cured Ryan, shows that Ryan loves Christoph so much. If Christoph forgets Ryan, then Christoph is less likely to know that he murdered the person who could have cured the man he wants to stay with... x.x And Ryan isn't even blaming Christoph, which gets me even more emotional!!
Based on chapter 61, I see that Ryan is a compassionate human being. Beth did say that Ryan always showed kindness to servants, and we did see a flashback of Ryan offering a handkerchief to a servant who was bleeding. Ryan claims he just doesn't like to exclude people. But I think that’s not the only reason why. When Ryan discovered Beth leaving with her organization and then learned that they were creating the VS solution, he could have stopped her (at least when he caught her leaving) or prevented any further actions from her somehow. Maybe the VS solution would not be as advanced if Ryan exposed Beth, like if he were to tell Cecilia. Yet, I get the feeling that Ryan stayed quiet... Maybe Ryan wanted to protect Beth, so he didn't tell Cecilia about Beth creating the VS solution.
Like the way Ryan treats Christoph, Ryan has moments when he remains silent to protect people. And I'm heartbroken again... If Beth was part of a group of servants who created the VS solution, that means Beth contributed to harming her brother.... :(( Basically, Beth caused Ryan’s foreseeable death by creating the VS solution and Christoph destroyed Ryan’s cure when Christoph killed the culprit. The people Ryan cares for are the same people who harmed him. ┗( T﹏T )┛
But even now, instead of blaming Beth (who's probably dead right now) or even Christoph, Ryan tries to protect these people and is accepting of his foreseeable death. It bothers me so much when characters who look out for others must meet their end, and you feel like there's nothing you could do about it. ╥﹏╥
What could the characters do to save Ryan??? We managed to save Lucaon when Christoph purified Lucaon’s core, which I didn’t expect to happen. So, maybe there is a medication or a reversal to the VS solution somewhere??? I’m worried about staying hopeful in case Ryan does die, which would make me even sadder. :’( I may literally shed tears if Ryan dies, and I'm not prepared for that yet. ┗( T﹏T )┛ ╥﹏╥