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Yumiswife June 25, 2018 5:34 pm

I see the topics so many times and people still say it dosent contain rape. Where? Where does this not show a manga about a toxic and rape filled relationship? Every sex scene is literally rape. Not hating but?? What is this then?? Domestic fluff??

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    youraedthiswrogn June 25, 2018 7:54 pm

    It's an omegaverse, that was pheromone sex, not rape. It literally couldn't be helped.

    Yumiswife June 25, 2018 7:57 pm

    Why are you booing me? I'm right

    Yumiswife June 25, 2018 8:00 pm
    It's an omegaverse, that was pheromone sex, not rape. It literally couldn't be helped. youraedthiswrogn

    Rape is not consenting/wanting sex right? Pheromone sex or not isnt it the same? Just saying

    youraedthiswrogn June 25, 2018 8:14 pm
    Rape is not consenting/wanting sex right? Pheromone sex or not isnt it the same? Just saying Yumiswife

    No, it's not. They CAN'T BE HELPED, that's like saying if we were naked, i tripped and my dick went into your vagina i raped you... It wasn't my choice, i didn't have the intention of raping you and it was out of my control.

    Yumiswife June 25, 2018 10:53 pm
    No, it's not. They CAN'T BE HELPED, that's like saying if we were naked, i tripped and my dick went into your vagina i raped you... It wasn't my choice, i didn't have the intention of raping you and it was out ... youraedthiswrogn

    Mmmmm sure but it still sounds like rape. Accident or not

    youraedthiswrogn June 25, 2018 10:55 pm
    Mmmmm sure but it still sounds like rape. Accident or not Yumiswife

    It does look like it, but alphas literally can't control themselves. Some can have a lover, not WANT to cheat and be forced to because of the pheromones.

    Yumiswife June 26, 2018 7:44 am
    It does look like it, but alphas literally can't control themselves. Some can have a lover, not WANT to cheat and be forced to because of the pheromones. youraedthiswrogn

    I see what your saying but what about that seen where he uses his pheromones forcibly to stop hyesung from leaving and rape him?

    youraedthiswrogn June 26, 2018 8:27 am
    I see what your saying but what about that seen where he uses his pheromones forcibly to stop hyesung from leaving and rape him? Yumiswife

    It was an accident, Dojin says so himself and Hyesung says during the scene: "his eyes, get ahold of yourself!" because Dojin lost control once he let his pheromones out around his omega. It's the same as when Hyesung went into heat and pounced Dojin even though he struggled. Let me cite pages: on ch 3 pgs 4-9 you see Dojin had just demonstrated to Hyesung that he is an omega through his body, if you pay attention you can see Dojin had started to get red and pant because he was being effected by Hyesung's pheromones that had been released in ch 2 up till this scene, Dojin gets Hyesung off once before he briefly snaps out of the pheromones (it says -realization-) and moves away. Hyesung grabs his hand and keeps him from leaving, unbuttons Dojin's pants and plays with his dick before telling him to put it in his ass, Dojin literally says "no, no" because he doesn't want to fuck Hyesung but he can't help it. The same with the fingering leading up to this scene, hence it saying "-realization-", he'd been in heat. Ch 19, pg 3 is where Hyesung says "his eyes, get ahold of yourself" and ch 20, pg 10 is where Dojin says "i lost all sense of control". They both know it was an accident. There is also a scene where Hyesung wakes Dojin up with a blowjob, if Dojin was asleep he couldn't give consent, but Hyesung was in heat so it isn't rape, it was an accident. Neither can control themselves.

    Yumiswife June 26, 2018 11:57 am
    It was an accident, Dojin says so himself and Hyesung says during the scene: "his eyes, get ahold of yourself!" because Dojin lost control once he let his pheromones out around his omega. It's the same as when ... youraedthiswrogn

    Its rape from both sides. No consent given = rape. In heat or not. Call it a different name or whatever but its rape. If a drunk assaults someone, not realising they dont want it, is that not rape? Im not salty but i dont understand why no one can see its rape, omegaverse is almost always about rape lmao

    youraedthiswrogn June 26, 2018 12:03 pm
    Its rape from both sides. No consent given = rape. In heat or not. Call it a different name or whatever but its rape. If a drunk assaults someone, not realising they dont want it, is that not rape? Im not salty... Yumiswife

    Being drunk is a state YOU put yourself in, it also leaves a certain level of coherency and takes a certain amount of time to happen. The heat is a natural state, like a penis becoming erect or breathing, not a conscious decision made on your part and the heat happens instantly when in the presence of an alpha/omega. How is an accident rape? Why don't you ask a rape victim which they'd rather be stuck in a room with, a rapist or a guy who accidentally fell and grabbed her boob. The intentions matter, you're being ridiculous to say otherwise and honestly it's disrespectful to the victims.

    youraedthiswrogn June 26, 2018 12:09 pm
    Being drunk is a state YOU put yourself in, it also leaves a certain level of coherency and takes a certain amount of time to happen. The heat is a natural state, like a penis becoming erect or breathing, not a... youraedthiswrogn

    Do you think Hyesung would rather be trapped in a room with Dojin or a verified rapist with the intentions of raping him? He seems to get along with Dojin right now, probably because he knows it was an accident.

    Yumiswife June 26, 2018 12:11 pm
    Being drunk is a state YOU put yourself in, it also leaves a certain level of coherency and takes a certain amount of time to happen. The heat is a natural state, like a penis becoming erect or breathing, not a... youraedthiswrogn

    I still dont agree, if it makes more sense you could say its noncon. If i had to be honest I'd say this whole manga is disrepectful to victims, no one consents ever or even addresses it was a mistake; its extremely unhealthy. But i respect your opinion, i dont get it though.

    Yumiswife June 26, 2018 12:12 pm
    Do you think Hyesung would rather be trapped in a room with Dojin or a verified rapist with the intentions of raping him? He seems to get along with Dojin right now, probably because he knows it was an accident... youraedthiswrogn

    Remember when he tried to leave, then dojin used his pheromones to stop him? The baby is the only thing keeping him there

    youraedthiswrogn June 26, 2018 12:31 pm
    Remember when he tried to leave, then dojin used his pheromones to stop him? The baby is the only thing keeping him there Yumiswife

    The money is what is keeping him there, he chose to have the baby for the money, quit trying to martyr him. As far as him "leaving" just now, did you forget the context? He was upset because he thought Dojin was using him, he just wants to be treated well. Why would he want to be treated well by Dojin if he doesn't like him?

    chlirr June 27, 2018 12:51 am
    The money is what is keeping him there, he chose to have the baby for the money, quit trying to martyr him. As far as him "leaving" just now, did you forget the context? He was upset because he thought Dojin wa... youraedthiswrogn

    the money is the only way for him to get out of it... he get any benefits to have the baby. And yes, Dojin use him for the music, and now for have his family as his way too.... Dojin doesnt care about Hyesung feelings. He just want the baby and maybe keep the omega for himself... he calls Hyesung "my omega" so he care only bc he is a omega and its really sad :'(
    Hyesung has always oppose the fact he is a omega himself.

    Yumiswife June 27, 2018 7:35 am
    the money is the only way for him to get out of it... he get any benefits to have the baby. And yes, Dojin use him for the music, and now for have his family as his way too.... Dojin doesnt care about Hyesung f... chlirr

    Thank u, their relationship is toxic and unhealthy people need to start acknowleding it

    youraedthiswrogn June 27, 2018 8:30 am
    the money is the only way for him to get out of it... he get any benefits to have the baby. And yes, Dojin use him for the music, and now for have his family as his way too.... Dojin doesnt care about Hyesung f... chlirr

    He considered having an abortion, there is also putting the baby up for adoption or what he is doing now, birthing it and giving it to the father.