
Why? That is an argument i see a lot, i don't get why people think that way... You face the same barriers telling someone you aren't interested in them that you do when you confess, actually arguably less, i'd say it is harder to confess. So, you'd rather Heesu confess than Changyeong confront? Why, in your mind, does Heesu's responsibility to confess weigh more than Changyeong's responsibility to confront? It could've been either of them to approach the other, since Changyeong found out and took issue with it first it should've been him. Heesu wasn't going to say anything anyways, the issue is on Changyeong's side as he can't reciprocate. It makes more sense for him to just approach Heesu about it rather than... All that. Even putting that aside, lets say he WAS waiting for Heesu to confess for some reason, how long was he going to wait? Till he got married and had kids while Heesu watched on? And why didn't he JUST wait instead of hurting Heesu to try to get him to give up? The way he handled things really just wasn't okay. They had been friends for a while, all he would've had to do is say something along the lines of "we've been friends for a while, i know you and i can see that you might be wanting to take this somewhere deeper, but i'm straight so i can't see you like that. I really dont want to lose a friend though, i hope we can stay friends at least?". Easy. Just make them aware you know and gently reject them while letting them know you still want to be friends. Put yourself in Heesu's shoes, how would you feel if you found out that your crush (and best friend of the same sex) knew you had feelings for them (not sure if you're a guy/girl so insert him/her/he/she at your convenience) and rather than give you some closure they decided to date multiple people JUST so they (he/she) could introduce you to each of them, cancel plans made with and ignore you in favor of said girlfriends on purpose to hurt you and tried to set you up with a person that they didn't have any reason to believe you'd even have a chance with (if you're a woman, the friend is trying to push you onto what they assume is a straight Woman you've started spending time with, opposite for male.) in an effort to get you interested in that person instead so that whatever happens to you is out of their hands. If you're rejected by this other person your best friend is trying to push you on, then you're rejected, it doesn't matter to your best friend because they just don't want to have to be the one to reject you. Wouldn't you feel like shit when you realized how much your best friend, someone you felt close to, didn't want you to look at them that way, to the extent that they went out of their way to try and hurt you so you'd give up and set you up with a person they think will just reject you anyway? As long as it isn't them who has to reject you, they're fine setting you up with whoever and with whatever result that leads to. All those times you were hurt were on purpose, it wasn't that they didn't understand your feelings and were acting that way in front of you on accident, it's that they wanted you to see things like them with multiple other partners and them ignoring you when they got with other people because they WANTED you to hurt. To give up. Honestly, that's a harsher rejection than just rejecting him.

I agree. It also makes me wonder just how invested Changyeong was in all those relationships. In chapter 2 Heesu says that Changyeong's girlfriends usually break up with him because they feel he doesn't really like them. Did he ever liked any of those girls or did he accept to go out with them just to hurt Heesu? And in the first chapters it's also mentioned that most of the time Changyeong and Heesu are together all they talk about is Changyeong's relationships. Why did he even bother keeping Heesu as a friend if all he did was play him? I don't get it.
At first I though Changyeong was the idiot with a heart of gold. That it was why Heesu liked him but Changyeong never noticed. And that Changyeong always got dumped because he could be a bit insensitive. But no. It really pissed me off to find out he was playing everyone around him all this time. He is surprisingly twisted. It almost makes me want to see him get exposed.

Same. I hate Changyeong now. It's not even a mild, unsure feeling, i 100% hate him. I'm open to him being redeemed, if Heesu finds out what he did and Changyeong suffers for a while, but anything other than that and i'll just continue to hate him. My ideal future for this is that Heesu falls for Seungwon and the two start dating, AFTER they start dating (when Heesu has a pillar of support) i want Changyeong's dumb ass to come up and congratulate Heesu on getting with Seungwon and smilingly tell Heesu that he actually knew Heesu's feelings since they were young, i want Heesu to realize in that moment that all that he went through was on purpose (i want him to be asking Changyeong about each thing like: Heesu: "You... Knew?! B-but you introduced me to each of your girlfriends, all of them... Why?" Changyeong: "-smiling like he always does- yeah, sorry about that, i didn't know what to do so that was kinda... On purpose?" Heesu: "When you got a girlfriend you'd completely ignore me... Was that?" Changyeong: "-kinda looks guilty- yeah") and then Heesu: "-tragic, shattered blank stare away, looks devastated by the realization and starts crying- "that was all on purpose"? Changyeong: "..." Heesu: -leaves and refuses to talk to Changyeong for anywhere between a while to forever- If the route is just silence for a while before they talk and become friends again, i want Changyeong to be the one chasing and saying sorry and i want it to be clear that even though they're friends again the damage has been done. If the route is that they never talk again, i still want Changyeong to try desperately to chase after Heesu and apologize even though it isn't enough in the end. Changyeong keeps trying to text him, talk to him at school and have people tell him messages when they happen to meet up some where and -queue heartfelt scene where Heesu tells Changyeong how he meant everything to him and he stepped on that. How he spent YEARS wishing he could be with him not knowing that he'd been trying to get rid of his feelings the entire time- before just saying bye with a sad look leaving Changyeong feeling like shit and occasionally telling people to wish Heesu well at key moments in their lives. Closure here too though, i'd want a bitter-sweet end here, not all bitter for Changyeong so i'd like it if after the heartbreak and sadness that it showed Changyeong see Heesu living happily alongside Seungwon and that allows him a level of closure. In this "worst" ending Heesu and Seungwon would get a happy ending and Changyeong would get a bitter-sweet ending where he lost his friend, but knew he was happy and would end up with a wife and kids maybe sending messages through people they mutually know to Heesu to live well at key points in their lives like when Heesu and Seungwon got married, etc.

Same. I hate Changyeong now. It's not even a mild, unsure feeling, i 100% hate him. I'm open to him being redeemed, if Heesu finds out what he did and Changyeong suffers for a while, but anything other than that and i'll just continue to hate him. My ideal future for this is that Heesu falls for Seungwon and the two start dating, AFTER they start dating (when Heesu has a pillar of support) i want Changyeong's dumb ass to come up and congratulate Heesu on getting with Seungwon and smilingly tell Heesu that he actually knew Heesu's feelings since they were young, i want Heesu to realize in that moment that all that he went through was on purpose (i want him to be asking Changyeong about each thing like: Heesu: "You... Knew?! B-but you introduced me to each of your girlfriends, all of them... Why?" Changyeong: "-smiling like he always does- yeah, sorry about that, i didn't know what to do so that was kinda... On purpose?" Heesu: "When you got a girlfriend you'd completely ignore me... Was that?" Changyeong: "-kinda looks guilty- yeah") and then Heesu: "-tragic, shattered blank stare away, looks devastated by the realization and starts crying- "that was all on purpose"? Changyeong: "..." Heesu: -leaves and refuses to talk to Changyeong for anywhere between a while to forever- If the route is just silence for a while before they talk and become friends again, i want Changyeong to be the one chasing and saying sorry and i want it to be clear that even though they're friends again the damage has been done. If the route is that they never talk again, i still want Changyeong to try desperately to chase after Heesu and apologize even though it isn't enough in the end. Changyeong keeps trying to text him, talk to him at school and have people tell him messages when they happen to meet up some where and -queue heartfelt scene where Heesu tells Changyeong how he meant everything to him and he stepped on that. How he spent YEARS wishing he could be with him not knowing that he'd been trying to get rid of his feelings the entire time- before just saying bye with a sad look on his face leaving Changyeong feeling like shit and occasionally telling people to wish Heesu well at key moments in their lives. Closure here too though, i'd want a bitter-sweet end here, not all bitter for Changyeong so i'd like it if after the heartbreak and sadness that it showed Changyeong see Heesu living happily alongside Seungwon and that allows him a certain level of closure. In this "worst" ending Heesu and Seungwon would get a happy ending and Changyeong would get a bitter-sweet ending where he lost his friend, but knew he was happy and would end up with a wife and kids maybe sending messages through people they mutually know to Heesu to live well at key points in their lives like when Heesu and Seungwon got married, etc.

Personally, I think people who /hate/ Changyeong are reading too much into it. Like I said, what he did wasn't great and I'm not defending it. But to /dispise/ him? There's no point. He's clearly not meant to be the villain and I think you (as in everyone hating him) expect him to be much more mature than a teenager actually is. It's not that easy to just address Heesu's feelings especially when he can't even be sure that Heesu really feels that way because he hasn't confessed. Not trying to argue or anything, just don't think it's worth the energy to /hate/ him..

He is sure about how Heesu feels, not sure where you got the idea that he isn't. He says Heesu likes him and all his actions were under the knowledge that Heesu likes him. As far as Changyeong being a teenager and not being mature enough, he's been thinking about Heesu and his predicament for years, he just chose to handle it wrong. I'm not sure if you remember your high school experience, but i for one was mature enough to handle talking to someone about something that was bothering me. I honestly just can't really agree with anything you said, it all seems far-fetched so i guess we'll have to agree to disagree? I just can't understand how you don't see his actions as cruel enough to hate him, though i guess the story DOES try to portray him as cute and light hearted. I'm not falling for it, to me it's clearly a ruse and i think he IS supposed to be the "villain" in this story. If he isn't, then why is he the only one who has done questionable (to you, down-right shitty to me) shit? He's, imho, clearly supposed to be the polarizing character that makes you feel sirry for Heesu, in other words, the "villain". ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

I meant he has no proof, so unless Heesu confesses he literally cannot be sure of Heesu's feelings... I actually had a close friend of mine in high school be in Heesu's shoes with her best friend. Her crush told her head-on she wasn't interested (also said some homophobic things, yikes) and they never spoke again, so yeah I think high school students are not mature enough to handle this situation well...
Even if Changyeong's actions are cruel, it was clearly not his intention to hurt his best friend. You give him more "villain credit" than he deserves. That's all I have to say about this. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

The situation you described with your friend and this one are only vaguely similar, which is a problem because you're trying to use that situation as a sort of "proof" that teenagers aren't mature enough to handle this. In the 1st place, Changyeong WANTS to stay friends with Heesu and doesn't seem disgusted by Heesu's sexuality. This wasn't the case in what you described with your friend. If their crush "never talked to them again" and "said homophobic things in response" then it seems to me that they not only weren't open to gays, but also didn't place value in her as a friend enough to stay friends after the confrontation. Of course if they handled the confrontation badly and didn't care about her in the 1st place it all ended up bad... Changyeong isn't even remotely the same. He wants Heesu to stay his friend and isn't disgusted by Heesu's sexuality so he could've handled the confrontation well and things could've, probably would've, worked out well. I can tell you that I was mature enough in high school to handle this problem, as i did. There was an older guy who was interested in me who'd always call me beautiful when he found out i was gay, but he wasn't AT ALL my type so i told him directly "i really appreciate the compliments, the really did make me happy, but i don't want to lead you on. I cant see myself liking you romantically because you just aren't my type". It took him a while to give up and he kept flirting with me occasionally, but eventually, after me ignoring/playing off his advances we just talked normally with no awkwardness. I knew a lot of people back in high school who i had real, deep conversations with when we weren't messing around that i could tell you would be mature enough to handle this. One did. I had a crush on a guy named Josh in high school, one day Josh, Dakota and i were talking because previously i had pretended i had JUST realized i was gay the night before and outed myself to them (didn't know how else to casually come out so i told them in class the day before "i think i might be gay", then came back the next day and said "yeah, i'm definitely gay, i figured it out last night...". They never asked how i "figured it out", neither of them cared and Josh had even said he was "proud of me for telling them"), i hinted that i "wouldn't mind dating josh, i think he's pretty attractive" to the both of them when Dakota was asking what type of guys i like. Dakota had asked me if i thought he or Josh were hot, i said i thought Dakota was attractive and Josh was dating material. Josh responded with "i'm flattered, but i'm not gay" and i just gave up. Did it kinda suck? Yes, but from then on i was able to look at him as a friend... With a few fantasies thrown in every once in a while. ლ(´ڡ`ლ) I think your example was of an immature high schooler, but there are plenty of mature ones and Changyeong comes across mature enough to handle the confrontation correctly.
Am I the only one who actually started hating Chanyoung, like he's an asshead for doing those horrible things to make Heesu give up on him...
(all that flirting with girls in front of him) ヽ(`Д´)ノ (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸
And to think that I kinda liked him at first.