But he lied though...

Hwim16 March 13, 2018 5:27 pm

Can't help but notice how everyone is blaming everybody BUT the mf who LIED. Like I know pretty privilege is a thing, but seeing ppl let Maya off the hook even though he is a whole ass liar is confusing. Him being attractive doesn't mean he gets to be trash to his boyfriend.

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    Closet_Fujoshi March 13, 2018 6:26 pm

    He did it so nemu wouldn't be hurt... his lying was wrong yes but his intentions were in the right place. Mistakes happen and he apologized properly and promised to tell menu everything from now on. Isn't that what figuring out a relationship is all about?

    Hwim16 March 13, 2018 7:54 pm

    Let's be transparent here. I love this manga, but Nemu and Maya's relationship has been toxic from the beginning. We forgive and redeem Maya's character bc he's hot. Assuming the lie "protects" Nemu is a shitty excuse at best. He pretty much says with the excuse that Nemu's self esteem is to fragile for honesty...which is even worse because every time Nemu has tried to change his look, Maya was the first person to stop him.

    chey March 13, 2018 8:03 pm
    Let's be transparent here. I love this manga, but Nemu and Maya's relationship has been toxic from the beginning. We forgive and redeem Maya's character bc he's hot. Assuming the lie "protects" Nemu is a shitty... Hwim16

    ^^^^

    Anonymous March 13, 2018 9:02 pm
    Let's be transparent here. I love this manga, but Nemu and Maya's relationship has been toxic from the beginning. We forgive and redeem Maya's character bc he's hot. Assuming the lie "protects" Nemu is a shitty... Hwim16

    SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THANK YOU

    Closet_Fujoshi March 14, 2018 3:36 am
    Let's be transparent here. I love this manga, but Nemu and Maya's relationship has been toxic from the beginning. We forgive and redeem Maya's character bc he's hot. Assuming the lie "protects" Nemu is a shitty... Hwim16

    Yeah that's not okay to stop someone from trying to change themselves (for the better) and I understand but it's true that nemu's self esteem IS too fragile for honestly at least right now. That last page basically confirmed it. Here's to hoping that changes after this volume is over because again, figuring it out is what relationships are about. Right now they love each other and I believe that if you love someone that much you owe it to them and yourself to do your best, even if it hurts cuz it's too sad to give up without pouring out your everything. Because that's what your feelings are worth and it's not good to have regrets. At least they'll be able to say they gave it their all and have no regrets even if they decide that they won't be able to continue their relationship. If you don't want to go that far it's probably not love.

    Hwim16 March 14, 2018 7:11 pm

    I don't feel like anyone would be giving Maya this many passes on trash behavior if he wasn't an aesthetic ideal. I also don't think people give Nemu enough credit. Yeah, his self esteem is low, but not low enough to justify lying about his bfs whereabouts.

    chey March 14, 2018 8:22 pm
    I don't feel like anyone would be giving Maya this many passes on trash behavior if he wasn't an aesthetic ideal. I also don't think people give Nemu enough credit. Yeah, his self esteem is low, but not low eno... Hwim16

    ^^^
    i don't think nemu has that low of self esteem tho. he's just a normal person, and obviously dating someone who looks like maya would make you uneasy at times, that's only natural, right?

    chey March 14, 2018 8:23 pm
    ^^^i don't think nemu has that low of self esteem tho. he's just a normal person, and obviously dating someone who looks like maya would make you uneasy at times, that's only natural, right? chey

    i think he just feels that maya has his pick of people who are more like maya himself (like beautiful people etc etc)

    Hwim16 March 14, 2018 10:07 pm

    What's so difficult about saying "I went there because he was sick and needed help.
    What's so difficult about waking him up before he left and saying "He's sick and needs help. That's where I'm going" .

    Closet_Fujoshi March 15, 2018 5:46 am
    What's so difficult about saying "I went there because he was sick and needed help. What's so difficult about waking him up before he left and saying "He's sick and needs help. That's where I'm going" . Hwim16

    obviously it was difficult because he didn't want to hurt nemu!! it hurt him anyway but like i said, the intentions were pure!! also, this has nothing to do with maya being good-looking, I just honestly don't think there's a need to be so pissed off at him when it was an honest mistake that he won't make again.

    Hwim16 March 17, 2018 2:18 am

    Good thing Nemu wasn't hurt

    Closet_Fujoshi March 17, 2018 6:49 am
    Good thing Nemu wasn't hurt Hwim16

    Oh my god. Can you not read? Or is it a comprehending issue? I legit said "his intentions" not "the fucking result" ok!? I also said that it was obviously wrong and IT HURT HIM ANYWAY but why are you hung up on hating Maya? If u don't like him don't read it cuz they're the main couple and they're gna end up together ok?? Instead of blaming everything on him, how bout trying to see how they can move through this? Or maybe even his reasons for doing so? Or even that Maya loves nemu and would never purposely do anything to hurt him. But ofc you think he's at fault for everything and he's just an asshole cuz he has "pretty privilege." Do you have a complex or smth?

    Hwim16 March 17, 2018 10:15 am

    Tbh, I like discussing fictional characters with a real world, realistic PoV. However, you're far too emotionally invested for my taste lol. Your intensity got a little creepy there lol

    Closet_Fujoshi March 18, 2018 1:22 am
    Tbh, I like discussing fictional characters with a real world, realistic PoV. However, you're far too emotionally invested for my taste lol. Your intensity got a little creepy there lol Hwim16

    Because a "realistic POV" just hates everyone with pretty privilege right

    Hwim16 March 18, 2018 7:10 am

    So addressing a common societal practice is bad? <<<< Rhetorical question. I'm aware there is nothing wrong with highlighting common behaviors. Instead of assigning "a complex" to stranger just because they dared to openly highlight problematic thought patterns, I'd be more concerned with why someone highlighting it bothered me to this degree if I were you doll.

    Closet_Fujoshi March 20, 2018 6:13 am
    So addressing a common societal practice is bad? <<<< Rhetorical question. I'm aware there is nothing wrong with highlighting common behaviors. Instead of assigning "a complex" to stranger just beca... Hwim16

    I just don't understand why you're adresseing it here, when there is absolutely nothing that shows Maya got off easy because he was attractive. Nemu had no such reservations and you hating Maya cuz he's attractive just seems to me like you've got smth against it. My bad if I'm wrong but I think you're the one who needs to question why you're so bothered by it, "doll"

    Hwim16 March 21, 2018 2:00 am

    Wait. Are we being disingenuous here? To dismiss the character's hotness is to dismiss the whole damn story! I'm a bigger fan of the AkiraxShimakawa pairing because of the couple's complimentary aesthetic and consensual beginning of their relationship. However, I realize that I was quick to redeem Shimakawa for forcefully kissing Nemu because of how hot sensei made the character. That's problematic and I had to admit that. Maya is a little harder for me to pass because while he's hot, he's a whole ass rapist. Being honest is openly admitting that aesthetically deficient characters won't be as easily forgiven for crimes and moral missteps. This also applies to reality. However, sensei does make a valiant effort to mature Maya and have him feel intense remorse for initially being a criminal. Sensei also is a kickass author and plot developer in letting us witness Maya prioritize his own comfort over Nemu's right to be informed. She is CLEARLY illustrating that his character is still imperfect and still in development. Which is how I'm confused as to how all these ppl are misdirection the blame at the victim here. I can only assume the people doing so are like super young

    Closet_Fujoshi March 21, 2018 10:30 pm
    Wait. Are we being disingenuous here? To dismiss the character's hotness is to dismiss the whole damn story! I'm a bigger fan of the AkiraxShimakawa pairing because of the couple's complimentary aesthetic and ... Hwim16

    Because being young means you're stupid right? I also prefer the second couple to this one particularly because of the rape in the beginning. However I did not forgive Maya for it because he was hot. Not everything has to do with his looks and while there may be cases like that, this isn't one of them. I still haven't completely gotten over the rape if I'm being honest but I'm not gna lump his lying to protect nemu with that and just hate him. I think the more mature way of looking at it is through both perspectives which includes maya's reasoning. Is it such a hateful thing to not want to do smth to make your lover insecure? No matter the result, like you said he's still growing, but again, he never wanted to do smth that would hurt nemu

    Hwim16 March 21, 2018 11:04 pm

    Are young people stupid? That's not accurate. Stupidity spans all ages. I knows TONS of moronic older people. BUT, youth and ignorance kinda go hand in hand tbh. When you're young, you're ignorant to certain aspects of life just based on you never getting to experience it. Meanwhile, I don't hate Maya's character, he just isn't a likeable character to anyone who takes his actions at face value. Tbh, I LOVE this manga. It's one of my faves. But getting through the first few chapters was hard because he was so aggressive with repeatedly raping Nemugasa. I picked up reading yaoi around 7 months ago, so all the rape tropes shocked me. However, a friend told me to keep reading because the story gets better. It did improve and I ended up buying the first 7 volumes lol. I am looking forward to the way sensei develops Maya's character, because so far, he's kind of a shitty human being with soft spots for his boyfriend.

    Closet_Fujoshi March 22, 2018 12:44 am
    Are young people stupid? That's not accurate. Stupidity spans all ages. I knows TONS of moronic older people. BUT, youth and ignorance kinda go hand in hand tbh. When you're young, you're ignorant to certain as... Hwim16

    Ah. Yeah. I see how it can look that way if u started yaoi 7 months ago. As for me its been years... I still hate rape in yaoi and avoid them (tbh I also knew this got better later so I endured) but I just feel like the shock effect is gone now. I'm just like "that's awful. Let's read smth else" but I still like the Maya right now and the Maya he's trying to be. I also think nemu needs to work on his self confidence. If i have to confess however, this is not one of my favs (largely due to the rape) although akira and naoya are... in fact sometimes I think I read mayaxnemu just so I can catch the little glimpses of naoyaxakira