Thank you for recommending moonlight garden. I'll read it.
You should read haru wo daite ita, the men switch position even if one of the is the bottom most of the time. I think they switched like 10 times in the yaoi manga and its very different to the usual yaoi troupe. Its a story that doesn't end when they get together, it keeps going on and on even after they are stay together and the character development is so shocking and amazing, honestly you will pull your hair out with how far they have come. Its very realistic and its old, but the old ones are the greatest ones anyway ╮(￣▽￣)╭ since the author only starts with ink and paper and lots of planning back in the days where there wasn't as much bl as there is today. So they had to create stuff from their own imagination.
and when you said " what's important is what you are now!" , it was very true !!! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Then thank you for recommending Gary so daite it's, I'll read it!
Yep, everybody makes mistake but if you're able to move forward and don't stay stuck in the past then it's really a good thing!
Well it's past midnight here so I will go to sleep, thanks again for answering!
I just notice that my automatic corrector made a strange thing with the name of the manga xD
About two years ago or so I almost gave up on the entire genre because of how disappointed I was by it. Sure, every now and then I found a decent story but I had to dig through so much low-quality content to find at least one slightly entertaining manga that it just wasn't worth it anymore.
BUT then I read a yuri webcomic ("Vengeance") and I really liked it. It wasn't a masterpiece but by far better than almost every yuri manga I read. So I read another one and then another one and so on when I finally realized something.
I don't have a problem with GL in general, I only have a problem with Japanese GL/yuri *manga*.
-Most characters in yuri manga look like little girls/are lolis. Even adult women often look extremely young and cute. If not then they usually have ridiculously sized boobs or something like that.
-The stories are too shallow and there isn't much variety when it comes to the plot. Even if you find something interesting it's probably just a one shot.
-The way the female characters are portrayed is off-putting to me.
-And last but not least, the sex scenes are often disappointing.
Midnight here as well, Goodnight! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Never say this to a lesbian. Or any queer woman. Ever. Actually, you probably just shouldn't say it at all.
Whoops...... meant to say “sexist against men” not sexist against women. Like it’s not any better, but it’s refreshing to not be in the “receiving” end-even if the receiving end is “being treated like a woman”
First of all, yaoi has all those cute and handsome guys. You get to see one more guy during sex and isn't that a win? I don't really fancy yuri since I find fiction girls are annoying. Funny, because I adore girls but it's annoying to read about them. I'm just not interested. I also like dicks, meaning one more dick during sex.
I might sound like a trash fujoshi at this point. Well, I might also have exaggerated a little.
Like others have said, I just haven't found one with a good story, or good enough art to distract from a lacking story.
Some Japanese Yuri are pretty good but it's more shoujo ai... They suck at drawing good sex scenes and it's almost always in a school in our world so it's a bit repetitive, it's a shame that many people stay stuck with this image and don't go read the Korean yuris
I only said they are more accepted than gay men. It's the truth. It's like how bi people get more shit than any lgbt people. Dosent mean that they don't get any shit, they do and it's hurts them. You shouldn't use the word "queer" they hate that word and find it offensive.
um where u been bro? queer is a legit term in the lgbtqa+ community. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer
"Beginning in the late 1980s, queer scholars and activists began to reclaim the word to establish community and assert an identity distinct from the gay identity. People who reject traditional gender identities and seek a broader and deliberately ambiguous alternative to the label LGBT may describe themselves as queer."
so no, it's not derogatory anymore.
also i'm wondering why you think that bi people get more shit than the rest of us? bc actually they're more accepted. because, you know, they still are attracted to the opposite sex and bi people don't always even come out to their family or whatever as bi.
Yeah they don't come out as bi because they can't. It's still suffocating for them to be in the closets. They can't even be themselves. You should read so many comments on Reddit from bi guys and girl. Whenever they comes out as bi, they get screamed at by the opposite sex to admit that they are actually gay and they get dumped. Wherease gay men and women don't ant to get with a bi guy either becuase hey feel as if they can't offer them a family or a child like the opposite sex so they feel that the bi people will always be up leaving them for a heternormative life. And this hits there self esteem really low as well. So they aren't accepted by either. everyone thinks they are sluts and sleep around and can't Be in a relationship with one gender. Apparently they need both and people keep telling them to pick a side and plus gay men and women don't even believ bisexuality exist. It's because when gay people transitioned they were bi before and then gradually became gay. You can say all that but honestly if you look at the stats, bi people end up commiting sucicide th most cause they are unhappy.
Also the queer is really offensive for them, even if you say that. This extract is taken from a Kpop start that became asexual recently and he wrote in his letter "Truthfully, I think Korea is not very familiar with 'queer.' Many people with queer identities hide, fight (among themselves even), or do not care about the matter. Ironically, despite it being a reality, there are people who want to erase its existence. It's sad that we need to ask for outside people's consent to love who we love, and being labeled as different makes us socially disadvantaged. Honestly, there was no need for me to make this official, but I will now carefully convey my thoughts to you. Considering the past chaotic days, I wish the word 'queer' didn't exist. I wanted to know how wonderful the world would be if everyone was free under the law to love anyone, so there would be no need for the word 'queer' to exist. " most people under the queer identity feel like this except panisexual who use the word to show they can fall in love with everyone.
lmao number 1: one person doesn't decide if queer is a derogatory term
number 2: that is an example of someone from k o r e a, where lgbtqa+ is widely hated. over here, people in the lgtbqa+ community use that term to freely define themselves as part of the community, regardless of sexual orientation specifically.
number 3: it is an u m b r e l l a term that people in the community use to be inclusive. for example, a gay men could identify himself as queer, so could a lesbian woman, or a ftm trans person, or even an asexual person.
number 4: the term queer has nothing to do with "falling in love with everyone" idk where that even came from
number 5: "queer" is an even more powerful term because the slur was reclaimed by the community
number 6: it's a very very good term for people who are questioning, but don't know if they're bi, poly, genderqueer, gay, lesbian, or anything else. again, this is because it is an umbrella term used for anyone in eh community.
number 7: it's a non-binary term that can be used to bring the whole community together
so yeah, miss me with that "it's harmful" bullshit.
No I'm took an specific example from Korea to show why it's hated, this doesn't mean that I haven't I seen it hated by western guys. In fact you can start a Reddit account specifically called gaybros to ask if they find it offensive. You can be ignorant it you want.
Homosexuality was accepted back then. Gay meant being happy, it then slowly as society evolved became a term with bad connotations. Like you said the word queer was established in 1980s where the world wasn't even accepting of the term queer thus peopl hated it cause it differentiated them from normal people. It's like calling people with mental illness a special word casting them aside as not being normal. Honestly I'm stating all of this not from my opinion, I'm using context and history.
"They." Meaning you're not LGBT+. I am, and I am queer.
"Lesbians don't get as much hate." If I walk down the street holding hands with a girl, I might get murdered or have the living hell beaten out of me. If someone finds out I like girls, they might rape me to try and fix me. Don't tell me lesbians don't have it as bad as gay men just because some straight guys like to jack off to lesbians porn.
Also, I'm pan. Don't speak for bi, poly and pan people like that. We don't get it worse, and one thing we don't do in this community is play the victim olympics because it takes away from the real issues and dismisses other people's problems.
I'm a straight woman and I have used the word before and got told off by lesbians, gay men and bi men/woman. I never knew why it was bad until they told me and gave me an example.
And many people in the community have reclaimed "queer". Please don't try and school us on our lives and our community.
Hey, I was wondering, why do you think there is so much more people who loves yaoi than Yuri? I mean, such a difference is weird no? The amount of people shouldn't be nearly the same?