I’ll throw it out there

Daya February 6, 2018 10:08 pm

Give the ending a big fat F. Hyung is a nice guy, but there were no feeling of love or passion. Just desperation over the fact he was getting older and was alone. All three “settled”. Subin wanted Hyunwoo to stop him and Hyunwoo did run out to stop him. Don’t confuse mediocrity with maturity. All three of them are cowards who will always live with that niggling dissatisfaction in the back of their minds.

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    felly February 6, 2018 10:22 pm

    I think oneday they are gonna fk anyway...Hyung and subin are so boring together

    deepika February 6, 2018 11:13 pm

    Well I cant say better Thank you Daya Thank you

    Eve February 6, 2018 11:46 pm

    Amen, sis, amen! I totally agree

    6v6 February 7, 2018 12:42 am

    I dropped out this webtoon after seeing some spoilers from the Korean raws. The author totally fucked up the plot, what a shame.

    Lint February 7, 2018 1:20 am

    THANK YOU, I'm so glad someone finally said it! Even though I knew it was coming, I still wasn't prepared for how massively disappointing this last chapter was (and the whole series in general). Having Hyunwoo chase after Subin in those first panel seems like a mean jab to Hyungwoo x Subin readers, what was the whole point? What's the point of continuing to tease Hyungwoo x Subin and what could have been when he ends up with Hyung anyway? I feel so cheated investing time into this series expecting Hyunwoo x Subin only to have the artist change her mind more than halfway through the series - and not because she originally intended to, but primarily because it's what fans wanted.

    The story was all over the place wanting to be about Hyungwoo x Subin initially then rapidly shifting to a Hyung x Subin coupling. All those chapters that were focused on Subin and Hyungwoo's past as well as the internal conflict they both continually have concerning one another was wasted. I mean, what was the whole point? Subin's character growth is intimately tied to his relationship with Hyungwoo because it gives him reason to reflect and question his actions. As much as I like Hyung, he seemed to be on a totally different page from Subin. He was obviously the nice stable guy that got hurt - which I do hate - but their relationship was ultimately boring and effected no change.

    I think the artist obviously placed this in a college setting so that we could watch these characters navigate a crucial time in their lives. They're young and still trying to figure out their place in life both romantically and career-wise. Hyungwoo's character had a lot of potential for character growth as we see towards the end. He was at a crossroads attempting to get his life back on track all the while confronted with a huge question about his sexuality. While I agree his actions were very ass-holish at the start, they were still very understandable and forgivable. The way some of you guys talk about him, you would have thought he raped and killed Subin. This in the face of the face of the continual rape and noncon that dominates BL and where the most popular BL series feature heavy dubcon/noncon material.

    Hyungwoo, while a bit of a douche, makes very human mistakes, which makes him much more relatable and interesting, IMO. Ugh, so much wasted potential in this manhwa. We could have seen Subin and Hyungwoo face some very personal obstacles to end up with one another in a happier place because they earned it. Instead, Subin gets a boring job that his boyfriend/significant other helped him get and suddenly he's all tears because he's sooo in love with Hyung because what, why? Because he let him live with him? Because Hyung wanted him? I guess maybe one of those could be reason enough, but it was all so poorly executed and rushed that I didn't feel it. At least in comparison to what could have been. Bleh, not reading anything else by this artist again. This will be one of many that get lost in sea of mediocre material out there.

    otaku nerd February 7, 2018 1:57 am

    I do agree u with u but u know
    Sometimes desperation is a part of love , and to be used to someone and feel incomplete without them is a part of love ,
    I do think it was a sense of desperation at first , but u can see how hyung developed feelings for him , and it really happens , at first sometimes it isn't love but it grows and becomes really strong u know ?

    I am just content that the author conveyed that if u like someone they don't have to return ur feelings , the opposite happens in almost every manga be it shoujo or yaoi , or shounen , if the MC was the main character , then DUH , the other main character SHOULD RETURN the feelings ? , wtf....

    It is actually refreshing how it didn't happen ,
    And also I know u all r saying that hyunwoo is bi or something but the fact that he had a GIRLFRIEND not a boyfriend at the end .....makes me feel habit uneasy and says he still swings that way ,
    Maybe hyunwoo just felt pity for subin , maybe he felt obligated to return the feelings considering how long they were friends , maybe he loves him genuinely as friends and he clearly stated that he wants everything to return before all this happens ,
    I think hyung was more honest with his feelings and actually have LOVE feelings for subin , maybe hyunwoo has them but not as strong , or even friendships or brotherhood feelings ,
    He was an ass about lying that they didn't do anything that night , I know , but I would have done the same tbh , being scared is really ...scary ..

    It isn't about team hyung or team hyunwoo , both had their reasons for what they did , hyunwoo always did it half heartedly , while hyung always went all the wy out , even when subin , wanted hyunwoo to chase him , u can see how half heartedly he just went out and looked at his footsteps , while hyung always calls him and makes sure he feels safe ...(hyunwoo is reactive not proactive )

    I think the author wanted to convey , sometimes it is about working hard to make a relationship work , feelings are conveyed by actions , hyunwoo was still fazed and not settled , and I doubt even if subin waited for him , he would have never been able to settle down and subin would have been more miserable , they needed to be desperate for a while to clear things , and things worked out for them both


    Actually with a plot like this , it happens more often than the clichéd ending of ur love falling for u , .....it is brilliant ... ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Anonymous February 7, 2018 1:59 am
    THANK YOU, I'm so glad someone finally said it! Even though I knew it was coming, I still wasn't prepared for how massively disappointing this last chapter was (and the whole series in general). Having Hyunwoo ... Lint

    idk what happened with the author, like she really needed to finish the series asap & just gave us a wtf ending. Subin is still irritated with hyunwoo like he did not change in 2 yrs. But as they say, the more you hate the more you love. Sooner or later the two of them will fuck again. You know how subin gets easily swayed. Hahaha. But seriously, the series has so much potential that im so disappointed it ended this way.

    otaku nerd February 7, 2018 2:23 am

    And also for someone shaky as subin a reactive person would he a disaster and will only bring him misery ...he need someone stable ...like hyung , it wouldn't be healthy if it were with hyunwoo , I see hyung loves subin more , but even if it was vice versa , , even if they loved him equally or hyunwoo loved him more , it wouldn't work

    I relate to subin so much , I'm as shaky as him , I get swayed way too easy , he needs someone persistent , stable , he needs someone proactive , he needs someone who actually swings that way , or else he will live all his life questioning whether hyunwoo loves females or not , for someone as hyunwoo , he wouldn't give him assuarnace , nor security , ...at all ,
    If I were subin I would actually choose the same thing , do the exact same thing , and I relate to subin so much ....

    Maiden Faye February 7, 2018 3:21 am

    Yes i think so too. I had high hopes for Hyunwoo cause i did like his character butwith hyung and subin there wasnt much connection with both of them.

    Lint February 7, 2018 4:32 am
    idk what happened with the author, like she really needed to finish the series asap & just gave us a wtf ending. Subin is still irritated with hyunwoo like he did not change in 2 yrs. But as they say, the m... @Anonymous

    Yah, I'm so glad I'm not the only one who felt it was rushed. I don't know for sure if this has to do with the Lezhin business and her wanting out of her contract with them, but it didn't feel like Hyung was originally the intended love interest. There's rumors that she bowed to fan pressure and went with Hyung because of it, which is silly if true. If I wanted fans to write the story, I'd read fan fiction ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    Anonymous February 7, 2018 5:40 am
    THANK YOU, I'm so glad someone finally said it! Even though I knew it was coming, I still wasn't prepared for how massively disappointing this last chapter was (and the whole series in general). Having Hyunwoo ... Lint

    It’s true that she focused more on Hyunwoo and Subin’s relationship throughout the manhwa and I’d honestly love a good cliche where hate turns to love. And how the ending shows that Subin didn’t expect to see Hyunwoo again was kinda heart wrenching. Ngl I teared up too when Hyunwoo tried to chase after Subin after he moved out. Like what was he gonna say?? Hyunwoo was never bi anyway and he loves Subin platonically. Subin’s feelings for him bothered him in the beginning and it’s understandable?? But I really like how they developed throughout the manhwa and that the artist decided to keep them as platonically in love instead of romantically. Their personal development is also amazing like Hyunwoo learned to let go of noona?? Amazing. And Subin most probably took advantage of Hyung’s affection in the beginning. But soon he obviously felt it was wrong and felt uncomfortable living off of him. I guess that’s where he realised he doesn’t want to hurt Hyung and idk he somehow fell in love w him. So cliche haha, and yeah she did rush through Subin and Hyung’s relationship. She focused more on Hyunwoo and Subin and maybe that’s why most people are disappointed with it. I honestly want to see more of Hyunwoo and Subin I’m praying she’ll release some extras or maybe a q&a session to explain why she took this path. Hyung could’ve been a more exciting character, true. But it’s cool to see bl that’s not sex and romance centred. It’s the first time I’ve read bl that ends in friends staying friends lmao frustrating but characters all grew up and I’m happy with that.

    Lint February 7, 2018 5:51 am
    I do agree u with u but u know Sometimes desperation is a part of love , and to be used to someone and feel incomplete without them is a part of love , I do think it was a sense of desperation at first , but u ... @otaku nerd

    You make some good points, maybe it was pity, maybe it was a sense of obligation, and maybe it was genuine love that Hyungwoo felt for Subin, but we'll never know because we never got to find out. I believe the story was meant to explore both their burgeoning feelings for one another and eventually these issues would have been resolved. If we're talking realism (as some have mentioned), then it would have been realistic to have expected some adjustment and self-reflection from Hyunwoo. I think people are too used to the insta-love trope where the characters defy convention and immediately adapt to suddenly loving someone of your own sex. I doubt it's so easy to come to that realization in real life and it felt like some fans resented the fact that Hyunwoo wasn't crazy in love with Subin from the get-go (though he did admittedly act like a jackass).

    And I think it's too early to paint Hyunwoo's efforts as half-hearted. Recall that both men are in different places in their lives. Hyung is older and is in a very stable part of his life where he's assured of his career and sexuality. Hyunwoo is just coming off a military stint and is trying to adjust to civilian life and get his life back on track. I'm not saying I like how he originally treated Subin, but it must have also been difficult having to deal with Subin's outright overtures when he believed himself to be straight and in love with another woman.

    We were finally getting to the part where we were seeing things from Hyunwoo's perspective and how he might have misunderstood his feelings for Subin. Unfortunately, those moments of self-reflection were cut short when the artist opted for Hyung and decided to end the series. I think given time Hyunwoo would have devoted more effort to wooing Subin, but he was still trying to figure out his feelings. Its premature to judge how Hyunwoo would have been as a boyfriend since we never got to see him be one, nor is it fair to brand him as unstable when the circumstances surrounding the instability of his life are not within his control. IIRC, he's working hard and very focused on his music career, which is more direction than Subin has shown. The fact that he seems successful two years later speaks in his favor.

    I wouldn't have minded him choosing Hyung had there been more development between him and Subin and had Subin shown himself to genuinely love Hyung when they were together. Half the time they were together, it seemed like Subin was just using him as an emotional crutch to avoid facing his issues with Hyunwoo. The series was badly paced towards the end, so I didn't buy their happily ever after. Like I said, there was wasted potential here and while some would argue that the ending bucked the trend, it was at the same time a very predictable and safe one, too.

    Lint February 7, 2018 6:38 am
    It’s true that she focused more on Hyunwoo and Subin’s relationship throughout the manhwa and I’d honestly love a good cliche where hate turns to love. And how the ending shows that Subin didn’t expect ... @Anonymous

    Oh I agree, I thought Hyunwoo did a lot of growing and still had a ways to go, IMO. I appreciate that there are people who can see Hyunwoo as a character beyond just being a jackass because it does dismiss the fact that there was development for his character. But I see how can people enjoy that their friendship remained platonic, too. I just had issue with the artist and some of her choices as well as some of the crazy fan reaction towards Hyunwoo, as if he were a character beyond redemption. But I would also love to read some of the artist's thoughts as well, so that we can get a better understanding of the decisions she made for this manhwa. It's unfortunate that there is a language barrier and we are unable to read these artists' tweets and thoughts.

    It was originally this artist's unique approach that made the story very appealing from the get-go for me, too. I thought it was refreshing that they were really like a bunch of guy friends where one of them just happened to be gay and in love with his other friend, lol.

    tien February 7, 2018 6:55 am
    Oh I agree, I thought Hyunwoo did a lot of growing and still had a ways to go, IMO. I appreciate that there are people who can see Hyunwoo as a character beyond just being a jackass because it does dismiss the... Lint

    Aaa I didn’t realise I sent it anonymously. Also yes!! I don’t understand why people hate Hyunwoo so much just from how he treats Subin. He clearly still cares for him and naturally it shocked him to know his best friend is actually in love with him. It really isn’t fair to say Hyunwoo don’t deserve to end up with Subin when there’s clearly a potential that they could. The artists just decided a different twist. Hyung could’ve had a better personality and as much as I want extras centred on Hyunwoo and Subin, I really want some fillers on Hyung and Subin so we can atleast know how Subin really fell in love him. Bcs like you said, their relationship was def rushed. Reck really pulled me in with that angsty title and description too lmao. We love a good cliche, but what she did here is definitely unexpected haha

    Otaku nerd February 7, 2018 12:57 pm
    You make some good points, maybe it was pity, maybe it was a sense of obligation, and maybe it was genuine love that Hyungwoo felt for Subin, but we'll never know because we never got to find out. I believe the... Lint

    Hyunwoo was really vague , he couldn't possibly be in a healthy relationship with a person with serious self-acceptance issues like subin
    Sub in would never be satisfied by his vague actions , it is not about how young hyunwoo is , he seems like that in his he deals with his problems in general (u see , HE WAS SURE ABOUT HIS FEELINGS TO NOONA , ) and was vague after he told her , he seems to be inside his mind rather than outside his mind making action
    It wouldn't work , subin would be insecure most of the time , and fucking afraid of the future with hyunwoo , he would be miserable ...

    It is that hyunwoo likes things to never change it seems , he wants to remain as they were , he may ignore a lot of things for the sake of it even , it would bring sub in crazy

    Honestly any more chapters would have been a waste of time and unnecessary for the sake of making the story longer
    Hyunwoo did have a choice and he chased after noona , I don't know how many chances are u guys willing to give hyunwoo , I mean , basically he hurt him more than 2 times , I don't think I'm capable of forgiving him that easily ,
    Besides , u can see the fear subin has always benn in while being with hyunwoo while how he was basically using hyung at first
    I know what u r talking about , but what more development would be between hyung and subin , they both seem healthy and trying hard and have mutual emotions , .....it is not a kids show where they have to confess more than 100 times to call a relationship real or functioning as long as they both care for each other and actually TRY HARD for each other ,
    Sub in having all these issues about self acceptance wasn't half hearted with either of hyung or hyunwoo , it isn't about age really ...
    U see
    Subin did his all to hyunwoo more than one time only to be pushed by him each and evey time ,
    Subin told hyung he wanted to forget at first , was basically using him , then he felt secure ...wanted ..and in the end loved ......u can't blame him for choosing that after all he had been through ....

    Suggababi February 7, 2018 2:29 pm
    Hyunwoo was really vague , he couldn't possibly be in a healthy relationship with a person with serious self-acceptance issues like subinSub in would never be satisfied by his vague actions , it is not about ho... @Otaku nerd

    I think your're reply is skipping that fact that Hyunwoo had feelings for Noona. He had NEVER thought of his best friend that way!! Yes he didn't have to be a asshole but Subin nor the readers should have expected him to just be on board. Also if adding extra chapters would drag the story imagine how we feel reading all of the chapters focused on Subin & Hyunwoo-for what?? Hell it could've just been a nice and stable story about Subin & Hyung. But then I wonder how many would still be on here saying it was the greatest love or how many will be like meh, it was alright... Let's be honest-Hyunwoo role being switch from love interest to villian is the only interesting thing about Subin & Hyung relationship. Just like the author started writing all the unnecessary chapters introducing Hyung she could have chosen to develop both Subin and Hyunwoo as I think she originally intended. It would've made for a better story and ending.

    Lint February 9, 2018 6:58 am
    Aaa I didn’t realise I sent it anonymously. Also yes!! I don’t understand why people hate Hyunwoo so much just from how he treats Subin. He clearly still cares for him and naturally it shocked him to know h... tien

    Yes! I know it shouldn't be such of a surprise that fans in the romance genre tend to always divide firmly into two camps for love triangle scenarios. While I'm not deriding anyone for picking one or the other, it's often the Team A or Team B mentality that creates bias among readers, often times clouding people's ability to have a civil discourse where we attempt to view characters and their actions objectively. Of course I'm sure there are many people who have very rational and fair reasons for choosing one love interest over another, but based on many of the posts I've read on the discussion of Hyung vs. Hyunwoo, a majority of people just seemed to hate Hyunwoo because he was an asshole to Subin at the beginning.

    While it's certainly true that his behavior towards Subin was very poor, people seemed absolutely closed-minded towards any type of redemption for Hyunwoo and were unwilling to at least examine his actions based on his perspective. I dunno, I felt if people were attracted to the "realism" aspect of this manhwa then they should have appreciated that one of the love interests was clearly written with this theme in mind. We're all gray characters who make mistakes, often times unsure of our place in life trying to navigate the murky waters of adulthood the best way we can.

    I think if the artist does write extras, it would have to be about Hyung and Subin since they're the main couple now. Having some extras would definitely flesh out their relationship a bit more, but at this point I'm not very interested, lol. However, I do hope she throws a bone for people who do care about their relationship and gives you guys more (⌒▽⌒)