One of the tags is "unrequited love". Unrequited love, my ass! What love? This is rape! " ...

R0se February 6, 2018 10:24 am

One of the tags is "unrequited love". Unrequited love, my ass! What love? This is rape! " It's fiction not real people", thank you Sherlock, I hadn't noted that. e.e
I know it's fiction, the thing is that it is wrong to portray rape like this because even though we know it's fantasy and one of the most terrible things that can happen to a person, maybe there's someone out there who thinks: "oh, this is so cute! I wish that could happen to me" just because the "romance" air and stuff.

"You're overreacting, you're crazy," crazy? You don't know how delusional one person can get after reading only a type of fiction. That's why it's wrong, because people might take it or might want to take it to reality because "it's so cute!" (Whrn it's not) and that's not right.
We're all pervs and whatnot but for me this is different, now it is, after reading a bunch of rape stories and have someone pretty close to me to be a victim of that shit. That shit you call cute and romantic, when the guy rapes someone who's under the influence of alcohol and sleeping. So F off.
Hello hands down.
-drops mic-

Responses
    Monohara February 6, 2018 10:30 am

    True i swear

    Celdria February 6, 2018 11:03 am

    Actually, if anyone thinks that this is "romantic"? or "cute", and wants it to happen to them, is straight up retarded.

    I think lot of us knows that this isn't real, I usually like the stories with rape in it (but they are much more mature stories), but this one was just straight up boring, and it's so clear, that the mangaka doesn't know anything about biology. (first and most important rule: you DON'T show up anything into the ass, if it isn't much wider at the end, to prevent it from getting stuck inside) I know it's just a one shot but man, the quality is dropping, I used to enjoy them xd (or just I became more picky)

    takame February 6, 2018 11:09 am

    The reason why kids shouldn't read things like this. This is for adults enjoyment. However we are not their mothers.
    Also, check this last page. Even though his mouth is denying it , he's really not as averse to what happened as everyone insists him to be http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/saitou_kun_to_190_cm_no_otoko_2/uu/saitou_kun_to_190_cm_no_otoko_2-chapter-1/20/ (actually got touched to be called by his first name intimately...)
    I agree with the unrequited love tho. That tag is out of place. Thankfully it's not a top tag.

    Arya February 6, 2018 11:26 am

    Im totally with you on this one. I know people usually say excuses like "this is yaoi, and there is plenty of rape in yaoi, and why are you here in the first place if you don't want to read rape?" Knowing the background that yaoi emerged as a form of literature, I've never complained when I saw rape being normalized in older yaois (Mind you, I've read around 2000). However, yaois came a long way and the type of audience also changed with the number. So if the upcoming authors/ newly-released mangas also showcases the same old thing, they deserve our backlash. It's about time they move away from that trend don't you think?

    takame February 6, 2018 11:46 am
    Im totally with you on this one. I know people usually say excuses like "this is yaoi, and there is plenty of rape in yaoi, and why are you here in the first place if you don't want to read rape?" Knowing the b... Arya

    Nah more rape for us. Don't forget. Omegaverse. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    takame February 6, 2018 11:59 am
    Im totally with you on this one. I know people usually say excuses like "this is yaoi, and there is plenty of rape in yaoi, and why are you here in the first place if you don't want to read rape?" Knowing the b... Arya

    I'm a witness on the evolution and trends in bl being a fujoshi aunty. In Japan, fujoshis are familiar with their tropes. If we are talking about trends, what changed in is bl it got less psychological with more happy endings. IDK about the western or "modern" sensibilities but that doesn't necessarily translate to Asia especially to a formerly closed-country Japan

    Celdria February 6, 2018 12:10 pm
    Nah more rape for us. Don't forget. Omegaverse. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ takame

    Actually, omegavers could have a lot of potential imo, but nah, the stories are almost all the same there too. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Arya February 6, 2018 12:33 pm
    I'm a witness on the evolution and trends in bl being a fujoshi aunty. In Japan, fujoshis are familiar with their tropes. If we are talking about trends, what changed in is bl it got less psychological with mor... takame

    yes, I agree with you. I'm not saying it has changed, I'm just stating my frustration and saying it should change. I thought fujoshi's and fundanshi's stating their opinion could change it eventually, maybe?! Any suggestions?

    SayerSong February 6, 2018 1:26 pm

    Well, and it is like everyone in the fucking bar let it happen by letting that pushy seme take the OBVIOUSLY drunken uke WHO LOUDLY REFUSED THE SEME, out of the bar! That is what really gets me. Usually if there is rape, I can suspend my disbelief if it is unrealistic or if realistically portrayed, I give them credit if handled appropriately. But this is just too stupidly done all the way around.

    takame February 6, 2018 2:11 pm
    yes, I agree with you. I'm not saying it has changed, I'm just stating my frustration and saying it should change. I thought fujoshi's and fundanshi's stating their opinion could change it eventually, maybe?! A... Arya

    I doubt lol. If there is a more effective way, go to japanese boards or give a feedback directly to BL magazine publisher like Gold, etc. Or komiket, probably. It's a mishmash of indie and official publication there so the right people are present.

    Ι_read_everything!damn-it! February 6, 2018 2:28 pm

    I am not that against rape in a manga mainly because reality has nothing to do with this crap. No rape victim will start to feel it if the rapist is "good" in the action, or because he touched the victim in a nice spot. That is bullshit. So it does not feel like at all like actual rape. But the absurpt story lines and the low quality repeatition makes me bored. There are so many yaoi with that kind of rape that it's ridiculous. Mostly what gets on my nerves are people saying "if you do not like rape go read other type of mangas, you do not belong to the yaoi world, yaoi is porn, blah,blah". They think yaoi is equal to rape or porn and not with bl. This is stupid. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you cannot say to people what to do. Moreover there are many yaoi without rape or porn and many seinen and josei with rape and porn. As for the delusional people unfortunately they are everywhere. They watch superman and fly out of the window, thay see a serial killer who looks "cute" and they send him love letters...if we start to censor everything it will never end.

    Morohtar February 6, 2018 3:00 pm

    I hope you do realie that there are people with an actual rape fetish, right? :'D
    And there are people who have an actual working brain and can tell the difference between fiction happening and reality. Having a kink in fiction does not mean people like it in real life as well, this 'Non-consensual sex turning into the partner liking it' is one of them. If someone is actually retarded enough to hope for this in real life, they are either kinky as hell in that way and/or likely have a few screws loose.
    To each their own.

    And as Ι_read_everything!damn-it! said, if the victim is actually disgusted by what is happening, their reaction will be entirely different from what was portrayed in this work (and most others), that is the main reason why rape or 'rape' is alright for many in manga. It is clearly shown that what is happening is enjoyed by the characters, which takes away the uncomfortable or disgusting feeling while reading. And I have seen many, MANY rape involving plots in my past 11 years in manga/anime.
    I am not desensitized, I still get easily uncomfortable or disgusted, but this is really not one of those works. It's at the far bottom of the list, really.

    Morohtar February 6, 2018 3:02 pm
    I am not that against rape in a manga mainly because reality has nothing to do with this crap. No rape victim will start to feel it if the rapist is "good" in the action, or because he touched the victim in a n... Ι_read_everything!damn-it!

    "if we start to censor everything it will never end"
    SO true! X'D
    Even fluff stories would be affected since there are cliches and such that will offend someone's opinion or likes/dislikes. In the end, we would have nothing left, I dare say.

    Sessi February 6, 2018 3:25 pm
    I am not that against rape in a manga mainly because reality has nothing to do with this crap. No rape victim will start to feel it if the rapist is "good" in the action, or because he touched the victim in a n... Ι_read_everything!damn-it!

    You obviously haven't been paying attention in class about the human body. Many rape victims feel ashamed more so because their bodies reacted in a certain way opposite to how they felt. Especially males and having their prostate massaged. If you're going to start off with those first sentences maybe you should do some additional reading/research besides basing your knowledge on what you think a rape victim will react like or feel during being raped on mangas.

    Monohara February 6, 2018 4:33 pm
    You obviously haven't been paying attention in class about the human body. Many rape victims feel ashamed more so because their bodies reacted in a certain way opposite to how they felt. Especially males and ha... @Sessi

    She didn't realy mean that they'll hate it sexually but emotionaly . The point that she wanted to mention here is that the mangas is not always related to real facts

    Morohtar February 6, 2018 5:45 pm
    She didn't realy mean that they'll hate it sexually but emotionaly . The point that she wanted to mention here is that the mangas is not always related to real facts Monohara

    Exactly.
    On top of that people really need to pay attention to the facial expression of the people involved. Mangaka WILL draw expressions showing displeasure, discomfort or even fear in the scenes IF the victim really is entirely against it. (Unless it's pure smut in genre, then you basically get instant horny reactions by anything said or done.)
    Those seem to be things that people easily ignore or just overlook. It changes the situation quite a bit however. And then there is inner monologue of the victim clearly stating that they enjoy it from a to z (which is also ignored in the majority of all cases).

    R0se February 7, 2018 1:38 am
    I hope you do realie that there are people with an actual rape fetish, right? :'DAnd there are people who have an actual working brain and can tell the difference between fiction happening and reality. Having a... Morohtar

    Duh! Of course I know there are millions of fetish, including rape, who doesn't known that? A virgin maybe. I am not against mangakas creating their plots and whatnot, you yourself are saying exactly what I don't like: they enjoy it in the middle of it. Romanticing rape is not OK, that's my opinion. Most of us are adults and know perfectly well this is fiction but even though it reaches people's minds and hearts. How many times have you cried because of a sad ending? Or get furious when a character is a total asshole? That's the same, people may start thinking, not everyone but some, that rape is like in fictional works and not like in the news and stuff. Oh, I've been reading manga for almost 13 years now, and just as someone else says: it's tiring the same topic, no evolution and the same twisted thingie being romanticed because, oh, the seme is good at fucking and the uke was enjoying in the middle of it, so it's OK.
    Well... no.

    R0se February 7, 2018 1:39 am
    Actually, if anyone thinks that this is "romantic"? or "cute", and wants it to happen to them, is straight up retarded. I think lot of us knows that this isn't real, I usually like the stories with rape in it (... Celdria

    I've read some comments saying it's cute and stuff in several rapey mangas.
    And yes, I think I became even more picky. lol

    R0se February 7, 2018 1:40 am
    Im totally with you on this one. I know people usually say excuses like "this is yaoi, and there is plenty of rape in yaoi, and why are you here in the first place if you don't want to read rape?" Knowing the b... Arya

    Totally

    R0se February 7, 2018 1:43 am
    I am not that against rape in a manga mainly because reality has nothing to do with this crap. No rape victim will start to feel it if the rapist is "good" in the action, or because he touched the victim in a n... Ι_read_everything!damn-it!

    When we censor something we are practically telling people to go and look for it until they watch it. lol
    Not censor but stop romanticing rape. It is not cute, you're not gonna feel good and unless you suffer from a terrible case of Stockholm Syndrome, you are not gonna fall in love with your rapist/kidnapper.