This manga is entertaining but also so frustrating ....

Zarathustra January 18, 2018 10:20 pm

It seems the author can't decide if she/he wants to add some depth to the characters and plot or just leave it as endless plotless 'shots of life' among cute boys.... The story adds some substance to it in one chapter just to completely reverse to 'nothing happened' .

1- There was a build up between Jian Yi and Zhan Xi and an emotional confession ( finally) and now it seems it never happened. It's like they are back to the first episodes. Zhan Xi says 'I know' and that's it? He is going to continue hitting Jian Yi as a way to deal with the unwanted advances?

2- What is the story behind Jian Yi kidnap? What is the deal with Zhan Xi totally transformation from a kind, happy kid to this ball of bitterness that never smiles? Why is he so abusive to Jian Yi and beats him as retaliation for his silliness? It doesn't matter if he likes him, he is the only one doing the beating and sounds abuse.

3- What was the deal with He Tian taking Mo to his parent's old restaurant? It's too much of a coincidence ... did he wanted to torture Mo or see him upset? That chapter also seemed like some kind of evolution between them but then it's like nothing happened and we are back to slapstick only. Is He Tian still threatening Mo to get what he wants? How Mo can see He Tian as friend if the other guy treats him as his dog?

4- It would be awesome if the author added the background behind the funny bits because it makes more sense, especially if it could explain He Tian's dubious behavior. Yes, he is hot and it's sexy and of course he is attracted to Mo but he treats the other like a pet ... The earring thing was creepy. Maybe he doesn't know how to approach Mo and act like a jerk? All that he is doing is reinforcing in Mo the idea that bullying weaker people is always the way. Mo was a bully and ordered people around and now he is being bullied and ordered around by someone stronger. ... He Tian needs to stop treating Mo as pet if he wants the other guy to trust him.

Anyway, these guys are so fun to watch but the lack of continuity or any substance explaining the character's behavior is really frustrating.

Responses
    Anonymous January 18, 2018 11:26 pm

    I laugh a lot with '19 Days' but I have to agree with you ... sometimes it feels the story line is flowing but then the next chapter comes and it's like the characters didn't reach any milestone in their relationship or the plot is disconnected.
    I don't like either that He Tian/Mo story is more like stronger kid forcing the weaker kid to be his toy than a friendship. Clearly Mo is afraid of He Tian and this is a sad way to get someone to be close to you.
    But as you said, it is still entertaining ....

    tahime January 18, 2018 11:42 pm

    We need to know more about their pasts. Especially Mo. Idk why Mo is scared of He Tian.

    Double77 January 19, 2018 2:38 am

    The only thing I can say is that I believe the earring was to get a modeling job with the people. I'm rereading this so when I get to that part I may realize I was wrong but that's all I can think of. Oh and He Tian is bullying Mo but I feel like its to make him stronger or so he can keep Mo out of trouble.

    Just what I think.

    Double77 January 19, 2018 2:54 am

    http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/19_days/bt/c143/pg-3/

    This part of the story could explain why things always go back to normal for Jian and Xi also just because a friend likes another friend should they really stop messing around? Xi does show that he cares for Jian anyway so I hope it's nothing serious for the reason why he has gotten bitter.

    Anonymous January 19, 2018 6:01 pm

    Mo is He Tian's pet tho he just doesn't know it yet. He is stubborn and needs to be tamed but he'll get there and be the perfect M/Sub. He can't resist forever. We see in the future chapter of them he became more docile and accepted his gift without slapping it away. So he learned.

    #Praying for He Tian to succeed and tame that fox

    Zarathustra January 19, 2018 8:36 pm
    Mo is He Tian's pet tho he just doesn't know it yet. He is stubborn and needs to be tamed but he'll get there and be the perfect M/Sub. He can't resist forever. We see in the future chapter of them he became mo... @Anonymous

    Err... I'm not into the pet/submissive stuff so I hope Mo remains the untamed sexy, wild beast that he is. That's what makes him Mo. If their thing were only a sex kink, the sub/dom kink would be a thing but if I am to believe that He Tian is in love with the guy then he really needs to tone down the bullying shit and treating him like a pet. If he goes on like this, I can only root that Mo bites and beats him up at some point. Probably He Tian would get a hard on being overpowered like that. He needs it.
    Actually, my pray would be that He Tian to be a power bottom. Yaoi world needs more assertive, powerful, bossy bottoms. A bossy He Tian taking up in the ass from his fiery red head fox. That's sexy. :) ... Even sexier if they switch once in a while. Now I'm dreaming.

    Anonymous January 21, 2018 6:56 am
    Err... I'm not into the pet/submissive stuff so I hope Mo remains the untamed sexy, wild beast that he is. That's what makes him Mo. If their thing were only a sex kink, the sub/dom kink would be a thing but if... Zarathustra

    I guess that could be cool too but I enjoy seeing Mo forced to submit to He Tian. He looks cute like that when he breaks out into a sweat and gets nervous. I felt guilty for the longest but then I remembered wait a minute those yaoi fangirls enjoy much worse than me (like Caste Heaven) so now I don't feel bad anymore.

    anonymous January 22, 2018 12:26 am

    i think it’s just the author’s way of story. it’s been like this since the beginning.. having serious chaps every once in a while between all the light comedy. i think the issue is we need to stop taking this story too seriously or stop treating it like it’s like others...??? as in like it’s supposed to be some well flowing segment like others but it’s not. it’s a different kind of webcomic. it’s mostly a slice of life, slapstick comedy... so there will always be more of that than actual serious stuff that deals with their background and other stuff. also this is a free webcomic, i don’t think the author writes this story for the fans.. i think she writes it for herself and simply shares it for other people to enjoy. if she were getting paid it’d be different i think??... there would probably be more effort into making it flow better and be more cohesive, probably giving more of what the fans want .. i once remembered that she made a post on her weibo (where the raws are posted) talking about how she writes the story for herself and for others to enjoy and that if they don’t like it they can leave (some people were leaving hate to her saying “just because she owns the characters doesn’t mean she can do whatever she wants with them” - which is false.. she’s the author and again isn’t getting paid so yes she can do whatever the hell she wants with this story)... so that’s just kinda another theory on why this story may not be written very well (altho still enjoyable)... obviously it’s still entertaining and a lot of people (including myself) still love it but i just don’t think it’s meant to be seen or taken as seriously as some other stories, for example one like saezuru. 19 days has always been like this.. i think it’s more that us, the readers began treating it as more than what it was and that’s when ppl begin to feel some frustration or disappointment with it... in reality it’s kinda our fault lol. i think if we just treat the story as for what it is and stop treating it like others as if it’s supposed to have more detail on the characters, the reading of it will be much more enjoyable. so i guess to answer it’s more of shots/slice of life not to be taken too seriously. both couples do end up together though.. so that’s something to look forward too. it’s just extremely slow burn and not be to be taken to seriously i think

    Mundane January 23, 2018 2:21 pm

    Well.. Its just less than 10 pages per chapter? Can you really invest too much depth to that? And i swear that answering youre questions or the author giving you the literal answer wont make the manga better. Its good as it is.

    Chen莫小晨 January 23, 2018 4:36 pm

    Well,I think so

    Anonymous January 23, 2018 6:04 pm

    People just hate to hear criticism on their favorite mangas. Be prepared to be told to 'shut up' in subtle ways or not so gently.

    I like 19 Days but I just lowered my expectations. Some updates just feel like fillers or regression. I do feel that the author raised expectations when she added some background and development and then cuts back to slapstick. It's natural that some readers feel like there is no continuity to some scenes.
    It's normal to feel frustrated because after a while the slapstick gets repetitive. How many times can we see He Tian beating Mo to get what he wants? One day he is tender and their bond is clear, the other he is kneeling the guy like he wants to hurt him. Or see Jian make a puppy face and advance towards Xi while this one slaps him? Xi needs some development in this manga, we know he cares for his friend but we don't really get his side of mind, it's more focused on Jian all the time.
    Even with the short updates, it is still possible to give the story some development. We already saw that. For some reason, the author pulls back and it feels like an eternal tease that never gets satisfied. Maybe the problem is that with each development, the stakes get higher. I mean, what comes after a confession? If they going to develop a relationship, the slapstick jokes with Xi hitting Jian will not make sense.
    I still like it but I have to say I am feeling like I'm losing interest, especially for the main couple. I feel that after 200 chapters and an emotional confession, a bit more progression that a pimple joke would be more interesting.
    As I said, just lower your expectations or you will get even more frustrated.

    Zarathustra January 23, 2018 9:00 pm
    People just hate to hear criticism on their favorite mangas. Be prepared to be told to 'shut up' in subtle ways or not so gently. I like 19 Days but I just lowered my expectations. Some updates just feel like... @Anonymous

    Lots of people disagreeing with me or with a different point of view --- I expected that --- but so far everybody sounds respectful so it's all good :)

    anonymous January 24, 2018 7:47 am

    hmmm well i think this story is just mostly for shits and giggles, and as some other person said not to be taken to seriously or treated as a piece of work. kinda like treating a children's book to shakespeare work if that makes sense. (not that this work is like a children's book but i think you get the comparison i'm trying to make lol) this story's purpose overall, is - i don't think- meant to be a great piece of work as far as storytelling/plot goes but more for entertainment with little bits of interesting plot work in between.. so essentially i think its to be treated as slice of life... almost like each is just a funny one-shot with occasional seriousness thrown in. as readers, we get frustrated because we want to see so much more from the couples as we get more attached but we probably shouldn't be investing so much into it.. if that makes sense?? idk but i think you get what I mean. lol

    although i will say that I actually do think zhan zheng xi has been more active lately.. definitely much different from the beginning of the story. I mean after the confession, he kissed his forehead, they slept together which he never would have done before in the beginning of the story and they went on a date at the park which he didn't deny.. sat on jian yi's lap of his own choice etc.. they're not BIG progressions but progressions to note all the same I think. he hasn't been rough with jian yi either lately after the confession.. but I would still like to see MORE like anyone else obviously.. . i'm hoping the author will give us something big between them again. mo and he tian on the other hand.... I THOUGHT we were getting somewhere when he had a panic attack at the restaurant but as per usual.. mo didn't open up or even want to or attempt to. I mean i'm happy that we got that background info of him but as far as their relationship .. just went downhill again. he tian was pretty nice trying to comfort him and I thought they would maybe talk about why he freaked out but.. they didn't. then they went back to school and mo went back to looking annoyed and hating he tian's presence as usual.. telling him to leave him alone and 'fuck off'.. then he tian kicked the shit outta him, so they just reverted back to basically how they met. i know they are going to start off as enemies to lovers... but I at least was hoping to see mo finally begin to see he tian at least as a friend or at LEAST trust him a little more but.. that obviously didn't happen they just reverted back to their usualness with no progress; he tian treating mo like a dog/like his slave, forcing him to hang out with him and to do things he doesn't want to. their relationship is never gonna prgress it seems.after that the chapters were kinda of both couples.. just light, playful comic relief.. which isn't bad.. I enjoy those chapters still but i think readers obviously tend to prefer the more serious chapters cause thats usually when BIG things happen.

    but again i think we just can't expect too much out of a slow burn slice of life story.. we'll probably enjoy it more if we just treat it as light comedic relief. and by the way, just like you i can 100% see he tian as a power bottom. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ he's so open to things like he would definitely bottom. i feel like most ppl just headcanon him as a 'sole top' only because of his height (which is stupid cause helloooo there can be tall bottoms ya'll) - plus its shounen ai so let people think what we want about their positions since technically we'll never see any of the characters have sex anyways lol.

    takame January 24, 2018 8:23 am

    I agree with the anon above me. This manga is generally a slice of life that is for shits and giggles. Can be compared to tomo-chan where we get our regular digest or smth. The plot development is so that it could run longer, is what I think

    lost January 24, 2018 10:19 pm

    I think a few readers are starting to few frustrated with the same things.
    The problem with the slapstick formula is that it gets repetitive so when the author adds some meat, it's expected that many fans start salivating over something important or progression happening. Then when we get a chapter that sounds like a flashback from before, it seems confusing.
    I think the slow burn would not be such a frustration if, like you said, there were a better flow or continuity after the more emotional scenes instead of adding chapters that seem disconnected in time. The disjointed updates gives the impression that it will take another 3 years of half hearted kisses, backtracked confessions and loose ends than may never be picked up.
    Once you start shipping a pair though, every crumb makes you keep following it even if you almost expect to get frustrated. So of course I'm still here waiting for each update, waiting for more meat.