The uke literally asked for it and said he wanted to do it with him after he saved him.
I think she was talking about the plot- the author actually thinking someone would actually asked to be fucked after the trim- not happening.
literally what i was thinking lmao
Ahhh. I see
In that case, just curious, but wouldn't they want someone's touch to be "erased" by someone they love then??
Heck no! If I were being sexually assaulted and then my lover came in and did the same to me, I would never want to see them again. A comforting hug is the right kind of erasure that says "I'm here for you." Sexual teasing says "I don't care what you just went through, my desires are more important."
yeah that whose "erasing" thing is juvenile thinking in my opinion. I've seen it happen between a lot of couples, so it isn't just a "school life" trope--but it just sends the completely wrong message.
oh but one I really like that goes against that is Rouge! ( http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/rouge_katsura_komachi/) if you guys haven't read it, I highly suggest it!
It's not there is actually anything physical that will last long that needs to be "erased" right? The real thing that needs to be erased is the bad memory, and it will take time depending on the individual and the trauma they've experienced. In real life, when I worked with clients, the initial reaction is to feel some kind of aversion to touch, even from their romantic partners. It needs the care, and support of the loved one for them to come close. And most of them are able to eventually forget and move on. But it definitely takes TIME. I know the manga world (particularly yaoi) uses the romanticized stereotypes. And we all know that rape is normalized. However, things have been changing-I've been talking to some Japanese authors (mainly newbies) and, according to them, they have a bigger fan base for BL than ever and they want to make yaoi manga- "the story with a plot type"/"breaking-away-from-tradition" thingy. So I just wish the new mangas/ writers would not stick to the old stereotypes. And definitely not give it's audience the WRONG message, coz honestly, most people don't know how to act during situations like this and the first thing that pops us is what they've watched/read. :)
huh. I never thought of it that way. I always thought I wanted to erase someone's touch, not that I have an s/o to "erase" it for me but I thought I could use a friend to hug me or something. Never worked. So I thought it would only work with someone more intimate. Guess not O: Guess it is a trope D: I'm kind of upset that it's not a real thing, it always looks so beautiful in manga. When it's done right, at least. Thanks for explaining!
I just read Rouge as you suggested! I really liked how Nagato treated sex as a partnership. Even though he was really turned on by Ai, he still wanted things to be equal and consensual between them. It's sad how rare that kind of dynamic is in yaoi.
you said it! there's so many unhealthy tropes in this genre it's sad! but I think that also comes from a lot of misconceptions towards gay relationships. As if a man wouldn't be effected by sexual harassment/rape (╯°Д °)╯╧╧ it may not be worldwide yet, but the #metoo campaign has brought to light a lot of sexual harassment cases to both men and women. I've started to see people call out people on their bs and that's magical. & I'm glad you liked Rouge! Aside from Rouge, Yamamoto Kotetsuko is a mangaka I look for in terms of healthy relationships in yaoi, I mean look at Tomoharu and Aki!
Uke is being gang-raped by the river, let's save him and fuck him five minutes later, that will help his trauma.
I'm so fed up with manga like these.