
Ugh... Bye. You just keep repeating your arguments and when i respond to them you do one of three things: 1. don't understand what i'm saying, i've had to explain what i've said multiple time now because you like to cherry pick parts of my arguments to misconstrue. You just did it again, i've already explained that the "no"s were just sex moans in this specific manga and scene and that him calling him a bastard was just out of embarrassment, not anger, you human broken record. 2. Just REPEAT your argument like a total dumbass even though i literally JUST addressed it. You've literally been saying the same things since this started and you wonder why i'm no longer bothering. Or 3. You literally just make shit up, like how you lied about the scene with him saying you bastard and the punch being AT ALL connected to the sex, you tried to say i was saying "it's not rape if the uke feels good" which literally isn't my argument and you only said that so you'd have something to stand on in your side of the argument and your latest "lets make shit up" session includes you saying i'm not responding to you. You're saying things like that all of the sudden and i believe you're trying to make me out to be a coward intentionally. As i've said, i already responded to everything you've said. You also didn't tell me specifically what i'm ignoring that you said, you just keep on saying "you're just ignoring my arguments" and then not telling me what supposed arguments, it almost seems like you're doing it on purpose. You're trolling at this point, you can leave now as i've already debunked you. Bye~

He didn't fight back... The "no"s were just moans, they were having sex, people say no during sex... The punch was a reflex of embarrassment, not anger or revulsion. He was suddenly kissed so he reacted without thinking, if the punch were out of revulsion due to rape then why didn't he try to punch him later when the sex started? He also didn't express any aversion to the sex like you claim he did? Aside from the moans, when did he express any type of aversion? Was it when they were talking calmly RIGHT after tge sex like nothing happened? You're grasping trying to argue that he was fighting off rape...I've already addressed literally everything you just said, i'm sick of repeating myself. Also, you keep saying "you're ignoring my arguments" and not telling me WHICH things i'm ignoring. I literally just asked you what i've ignored in my last response to you and you just replied with "you're ignoring my arguments" again. Are there ignored arguments you can name? Because i'm telling you i've already addressed all your arguments. Honestly, it seems like you're just trying to make me SEEM like i'm ignoring your arguments with how many times you've said that now. But why would you want it to look like i'm not arguing back properly? Oh, because you can't and haven't managed to counter literally ANY of my arguments so you're resorting to manipulation. I've already debunked you and since you're trolling i'm ending this conversation, you can leave.

I’m not trolling.,... You’re not reading my posts properly at all. I’ve made a full post about you confusing two totally different tropes, and you’re just repeating the same INVALID arguments. If you’re not even trying to read through and respond properly, and try to run three times (if not more) what am I supposed to say? You’re the one who’s repeating useless arguments.
I’ve explained it to you countless times ; A NO IS A NO. IT DOESNT MATTER WHY HE SAID NI, IT DOESNT MATTER WHY HE CURSED/PUNCHED HIM, AS LONG AS HE GOT DENIED, ITS FUCKING RAPE.
Between the two of us, you’re the troll :/

I didn't respond to that post because it's not correct, whether the rape is shown in a negative light and the uke later falls in love or the rape is shown in a comedic light to ease you in, they're both "romanticized rape". You're saying that the manga i gave as an example of romanticized rape and the guidelines i gave are to another trope, but neither is the case. In the manga i gave as an example the rape is brushed aside and romanticized as the "instincts of a wild animal" to appeal to a fetish, if that doesn't fit under "romanticized rape" then i don't know what does, the guidelines are accurate as well. As far as the seme sneering, i'lll have to read back.

Also, i "tried to run away"? I think it's more like you're trying to make it seem like i'm running away? This is that manipulation i'm talking about, you want any new readers on my topic to see those responses and think you're running the argument. It's a nice way to retreat. You're losing the argument so you start repeating things like "you aren't answering my arguments" so that when you leave the conversation it'll look like you left because i wasn't being rational... Disappointing. I can point you towards the 2 comments where you tried to leave WAY before you started accusing me of leaving.
1. Check under your comment that starts with "it also doesn't say it shouldn't be spoken aloud" towards the bottom of the 1ST PAGE, pretty early on to be backing out, but i guess you had no choice?
2. Check under your comment that starts with "i was talking generally" towards the top of page 2 where you yet again try to back out. If we're basing who's winning on the attempts to leave like you just did in this message i'm responding to, you've been trying to back out for FAR longer than when i first attempted to back out. I've attempted to back out 2 times btw, and the 2nd was about three messages ago. I only tried to because i've already countered everything you've said, you have nothing left to stand on and i didn't feel like beating the dead horse so i chose to leave. You were clearly attempting to leave with your tail between your legs.

YOU DID. I BROUGHT YOU NEW ARGUMENTS AND YOU JUST IGNORED IT CATAGORIZING IT AS AN INSULT TO YOUR INTELLIGENCE. Wtf do you want me to catagorize that as? That’s an even more bs ‘argument’.... Because you’re doing the exact same thing you’re accusing me of doing. Because you really aren’t listening. You’re bringing up invalid arguments over and over again, and I’m getting sick of it. It really does seem pathetic. If you want to argue, respond to the arguments in question, or just read the caplocked sentence in my previous post. I could too point out the posts you were trying to back off, but that doesn’t have a lot to add as an argument related to this one. I used it as a simple jab, IN THE EXACT SAME WAY YOU USED IT.
1. That was because it was obvious where this argument would go. If you’re not responding to a full caplocked sentence, what am I supposed to think about you? Obviously this happened after I was trying to back out, but the signs were still there. Right off the beginning you tried to take it to a totally unrelated topic, probably realizing you couldn’t ‘win’ (if I say it in your way), and going to other topics you could make the other seem stupid. Also, what’s this obsession with ‘win or lose’?
2. Lmao no I’m not rewriting this just reread 1 or something
Except this ; you were trying to do that a few times too though. Isn’t that like taking a jab at yourself?
I love all these "it's rape!" comments, at most it was rape play fan service for the readers. He said it feels good during the sex and was even thinking about his feelings for the seme, he didn't even show any signs whatsoever of being mad about what happened afterward... Where is the rape? They were talking normally like nothing even happened RIGHT after the sex...