So much mental abuse. At this point I'm not sure if Dohyun's feelings are even real.
Sungho was forced to have a sex in very young age. He was confused and each time he had sex with him he became crazier because he didn't know what to do. For most people it is easy to solve the problem, but trust me it is not when you are in young age and you don't want to lose somebody. If it won't stop in right time this is what may happen in the future. This is why I like story so much. It is crazy, but so realistic at the same time. And this is not just a school drama. This is one of the most important time while you growing.
I am curious why he has a scar on his face. For sure something big happened because it is not just a little scar. Can't wait for new chapters. (=・ω・=)
I don't know how you're reading but he was never "forced". You either have sex or you don't. They teach you that at school: you can refuse. Surely even after his emotional drama he shouldn't have raped anyone. I dislike him because of that.
I don't know. ╮(￣▽￣)╭ for me he was sort of forced. Im to lazy to write why I think that way. And my English is not that well. Anyway Crime is crime, it shouldn't be done no matter what. But people like that exist and this is why I like the story.
Emm...lol. I cannot pass it by, sorry. I don't know, why do you think so, but Dohyun has never forced Sungho to anything, as we can see. Dohyun was just young boy and did what he wanted and, I'm sure, if Sungho had said "no", he would have finished it all. Not Dohyun, but Sungho forced himself to do "disgusting" things, because he wanted to be with Dohyun. He had been racking himself for it and eventually lost his mind.
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Maybe you are right. :) maybe I don't remember everything perfectly. I just remember that Sungho did things which was done to him in the past. Sometimes Sungho did dirty things to Dohyun which were obviously forced, so it looked to me like Soungho was in similar situation. But, well... I guess you are right. It's Sungho who forced himself in the past. I give up. xD
He absolutely wasn't forced from what they've shown. No crime.
From our point of view Sungho wasn't forced but from his young, vulnerable perspective he was "forced" to in order to stay by Dohyun. I mean if you take a moment and consider things that way or I guess put yourself in his position its not that hard to see how he would come to that conclusion, like come on just look at the kid. In life, at least at some point, you might have done things you were opposed to for some reason or another, treat that situation like Sunghos and there you have it. With that said though Sunghos one sided love grew into an obsession and clearly somewhere down the line he forgot he always had a choice in the matter its just that the consequences were not something he was willing to accept and that was losing Dohyun.
No don't give up you have a good point here :) I agree with most of what you said, however theres one thing, in Sunghos MIND he was indeed forced but I don't think Dohyun himself was forceful. In every scene of the past it appears as though Dohyun could be asked to stop, and he most likely would, but Sungho would definitely lose him as a friend. Or at least lose that "special bond" they seem to have compared to Dohyuns other friends. People don't realize how different people can be pychologically, whats simply black or white for some people is a completely different thing for others. Gotta step out of your "logical" box for a moment and step into something unknown every once in a while...and in this case the unknown is Sungho.
but you can argue the same point for Dohyun as well.he was young too,was neglected by family,and had superficial relationships with everyone.Sungho is the first one who actually cared and looked after him,and that made Dohyun like him in a way that he never did with anyone (Dohyun is not the emotional type) but from the flashbacks he definitely liked Sungho and plus the author's words herself,that he in fact did.he just spontaneously acted on his emotions with Sungho.and actually stayed with Sungho for a long time(from the diary it seems they were together for a few months) when normally in Dohyun's relationships,he just seems to jump from one girl to another.but he never did that with another dude other than Sungho.so that shows he had something special with him.
all we have now are speculations,we dont even know WHY Dohyun ended the relationship,all we know is that we saw a flashback of Sungho crying,which made us think that Dohyun did something bad to him,but that could be a trick by the author and she does that plenty it seems.
the sick thing is,Dohyun was willing to play along this sex revenge scenario,ok Sungho do that and let the man go,but what makes him irritating is that he wants to keep him.is he some kind of animal? thats sick!
Sungho doesnt even know what he wants from Dohyun,one minute he wants revenge,then he wants to do anything for Dohyun and kiss his foot.one minute he tells Dohyun he will let him go if he remembers,then he freaks out when Dohyun reminds him of their agreement and act like he never said it.
he is I.R.R.I.T.A.T.I.N.G and freaking crazy,thats what he is
Lol I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or trying to prove another point in the first part of your message but one thing I certainly agree with is that Sungho is crazy. In the past its easy for me to read his emotions and desires and see how that can effect his motives in the present but his actual ACTIONS constantly contradict each other and like you said it's irratating because I can't tell what he wants out of this anymore. In the beginning it seemed pretty clear this was about revenge but now he can't seem to make up his mind and during those moments I think its obvious he's really fucked up pychologically and thats why he goes back and forth....ooor poor writing :/ idk one thing for sure is that Dohyun has been punished enough for his "wrongdoings".
I think the situation between them is actually fairly clear - now this might take a while to explain, so please, bear with me.
Back when they were kids Sungho was interested in Dohyun, at some point after they got closer started feeling something for him (probably something like innocent kind of love, you know, that one that fills your tummy with butterflies etc) and when Dohyun finally made moves on him, Sungho just went with it and (presumably) developed what I call the "possession right" on top of his innocent feelings (basically it's a schema of someone belonging to you just because they slept with you - plenty of people have it, it's based on the schema of sex being reserved for special relationships so we want to have exclusivity in our partners). At the same time, I imagine his emotions were also undergoing a shift into more darker urges (think locking his partner in the baseme... I mean warehouse so nobody can steal them - yeah).
He was jealous of Dohyun's friends who could spend time with him openly as opposed to him having this special, but secret, friends with benefits thing which was entirely on Dohyun's rules, so he wanted control - but at the same time, he realized that if he stops having sex with him (which he disliked) Dohyun will (most likely) ditch him, leaving him in a dilemma (that entire "why I am complaining" thing). Ultimately, being afraid of being left for dead, he just does what he's asked for - and is absolutely crushed once Dohyun disappears (reasons being left unclear by the authors). Having experienced the trauma of feeling used (after all, the only reason he agreed to all the lewd stuff was to make sure this won't happen) and being heartbroken, he wanted to forget, but he wasn't able - he was obsessed and helpless about it.
Fast forward a few years to the current time and the results are what forms the plot. Sungho at this point is so upset and furious with Dohyun for making him go through all of this that he locks him and does the exact same things to him as he has experienced - the difference is that Dohyun is not consenting and certainly not falling in love with him. Sungho beings to understand his revenge - which I guess consisted of making Dohyun go through the entire emotional spectrum as he did and let him go so he can die in misery - is not going to work and in the meantime he's back to the point where he's so terrified of being abandoned and going through the trauma the second time (so he wants to stay together at all cost). That being said, Sungho still does care for Dohyun - which signifies he still has some leftover feelings warped in some twisted sociopath way (after all, how broken must one be to commit such atrocities - can you imagine how many years it took him to plan and execute all of this? Those are years of sick obsession!)
But if they are to have a relationship in any other way, Dohyun must make a decision to stay after he's freed, which is not simple (as we saw in the last chapter). In a strange twist of fate (or should I say, excellent writing), Sungho is left yet again on an impasse and Dohyun's mercy (he frees him, he might run away, he doesn't, they are stuck as captor and captive).
Dohyun's side on this is another wall of text so I'll spare you, but generally I think we can say for certain the end is going to be tragic for Sungho in one way or another. A pity, but well deserved for his actions.
^a good explanation everyone
Mmmmm not exactly forced but if you remember in one of the chapters dohyun tried to be physical with sungho... but sungho wanted to talk and dohyun was not okay with that so inorder not to lose dohyun he tried to do what dohyun liked so they can stay longer with each other... I hope u get my point
Mmmmm not exactly forced but if you remember in one of the chapters dohyun tried to be physical with sungho... but sungho wanted to talk and dohyun was not okay with that so inorder not to lose dohyun he tried to do what dohyun liked so they can stay longer with each other... I hope u get my point
...young age? He was 18 (19 in Korean age). That's not that young. Sungho may small in those flashbacks, but he's an adult in them. Just a late bloomer,
...young age? He was 18 (19 in Korean age). That's not that young. Sungho may small in those flashbacks, but he's an adult in them. Just a late bloomer, I guess.
Ehhh ok but lets be real here, they LOOK like children in those flashbacks so its pretty easy to see how someone would conclude they were young and new to the sexual side of relationships.
adult - is not only age. At all, age says nothing. More that, in 18-19 years people don't know about life anything, they make so many mistakes that's completely normal, and if they still study at school, haha...
In flashbacks we can see, that they behave like teenagers, cos they were really just teens completely unaware of all consequences of their doings. And I'm remembering my 18 years...yeah...really, wat did I fucking do, lol
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Haha, yup, you are right. When I look back at how stupid and childish mistakes I made, it makes me embarrassed.
I am suprised that they were already 18 in the flashbacks! They look so much younger!
I really grew to dislike Sungho. His actions are insane. All this because of some high school drama. Although I don't like him, it's getting interesting.
Still, I can't imagine them in a romantic way after this. This relationship seems to be based only on desire at this point.