Thiiissss is loooking goood!!!

TY OMFG HOTT KISSING BED SCENES YOOOOOOO!!! Didn't go all the way yet tho! Gah!

Fuck. So hotttttttt

Good. I don't like yaoi lol

Then why are you here if you don't like BL? Don't read it then.

I don't like yaoi because it fetishizes gay men. I'm fine with shounen ai. And my username kind of explains why I'm here.

I'm bad at explaining things, so I recommend Googling it. Other people explain it better. I definitely know I'm not alone on this. A lot of the LGBT+ community agrees.

I mean type in "yaoi is" on a clean history google search and some of the top recommendations are "problematic", "homophobic" and "offensive".

Honestly, there's no point in explaining. I know of only one fujoshi who was convinced into realizing that it's harmful and stopped. They're never going to see it no matter how much you explain. Some people just don't get it. I don't even bother trying.

I could not agree more. It fetishizes gay men in a twisted heteronormative way, especially with seme and uke roles. People still can't accept two MEN in a relationship. One has to be the "wifey" and the other the "husbando".

But apparently, acknowledging the homophobia in yaoi is flame-worthy offense 'round these parts. Just let it roll off your shoulders. Half the people here are under 14. And the ones who aren't should be ashamed that they don't get it with the amount of access to knowledge and understanding we have nowadays.

i don t know - i mean i love some yaois with rape but in real life i m against rape - i m not "fetishizing" gays or anything - well actually i am gay hehehe anyway... i think you can like things in yaoi that you might not like or agree in real life - also i personally have no problem with a couple like in dark heaven or haru wo daite ita which are switching rolls (sex) everyonce in a while - or the "bisexuall" yuri (yarichin bitch bu) etc - i think yaois are all fantasy - some story more real some less but in the end always just mangas nothing more -
i totally cheer for sangwoo and bum (killing stalking) and hope they don t go to jail and end up together .... in real i would cheer for a sick psycho like sangwoo going straight to jail and bum getting all the help that he needs ...etcetc but i m totally against it that yaois are homophobe - that s pure bullshit - and yes you might won t believe it but there are gay couples where one is more "seme" and the other more "uke" without being "girly" - just there are gays who like more being the receiving end and there are gays who doesn t like it that much - where s the fucking problem with that?

and seriously i read so many yaois - some really fetishize others don t - like a hentai isn t "real" and about real couples and storys yaois aren t either - they re just beautiful art with interesting storys ...well even tho some stories are repeating xD

Honestly, I don't even read Killing Stalking, but I occasionally poke my head into the fandom to see if Sangwoo has been killed or arrested yet. SangwooXprison is OTP.

Actually-- *rereads Okarisu's first comment* *takes deep breath* Never mind. *twitches* Imma go write or something.

oh well have fun :) it could have been a really interesting discussion i think but well - guess you re not interested in that - then i just wonder why you start to discuss something in the first place ;) aaaanyway bye

I agree that it is diverse and lots of readers don't fetishize gay men. However, I can't help but feel irked by the ones that do. Sorry if I sounded like every single yaoi fan has weird fetishes. I don't think that at all. There are just parts of the genre and the fan base (parts meaning not every manga or reader fits in) that I don't like and that I feel to be homophobic. There are a lot of works that are excellent. I wish they would break out of the traditional roles more often, but we can only realistically hope for baby steps in terms of social progress.

That's actually rather rude. Knowing people who dislike yaoi for those reasons, they likely stopped talking because they would have ended up saying something that might have offended you. They started the "discussion" because you fujos make everything about sex and it can ruin it for those of us who are here to enjoy the story. I have read so many good manga and then in the comments fujoshi are going on about how they should have sex and it's extremely annoying. So giving sass was unnecessary. They said "I'm glad it's not yaoi because I don't like yaoi." That was a statement in response to the original comment that didn't appear to have any ill intent. It was an opinion. You all chose to turn this into an argument.

Lol, sorry. Just read your second comment.

Yeeeeah the wink kinda threw me off two. Be careful with emojis everyone. Use them responsibly.

i joined the conversation after i read the comment about how homophobe yaois are - so - i m sorry but for me there was already a discussion going on and a really interesting one too - and his (or her) comment was pretty rude as well after i tried to explain my point of view - he/she could just not answer or answer ..but a good answer not just one that makes me feel like i m not even worth the time to get an normal response

if someone doesn t like yaois - that s completely ok - there are mangas out there which are only about sex or have a ton of sexscence in it - that s ok too - i mean - they are "human" - they have desires and those are part of their story xD so meh

i m also ok with the ones that have no sex scenes at all - and yes there are fujoshis who complain about it - weeeeell - it s their opinion as well - that should be ok too right?

I'm really confused. I don't know why you are apologizing. There are multiple Anons here. I didn't see any comment from you lashing at anything I said.

You had someone else's quote so there username was there and I got confused. I retract my apology! XD