Now I know that many of you will say I'm naive and stupid because it was as clear as the sun that Asami was a ruthless mafia though ..... I got sick when I saw him sitting while torturing the enemy. Even if it is an enemy ..... I do not know ... I did not like the scene.
Yeah, Fei looked a bit 'flirty' with that phone. ^^
Keep in mind that this is still a mafia story. ^_~
I think I'm intrigued because Asami shows such a polished, sophisticated view to the world, people think he's straight for one - and a respectable member of society. And then you get the dual side of him - he is totally gay for Akihito, he's filthy
(a rapist too)（￣へ￣）and he is a massive sadist. I love that.
I love that thought of 'you have three faces; the one you show to the world, the one you show your lover, and the one you only show yourself' - I think Asami is this, I find it very interesting lol
I know that, lady. But one thing is a yaoi that has the mafia background. Another is to see the protagonist of the manga who lucidally tortures a helpless, wise and tied man. Asami has already killed, but only moved by instinct (I speak of what Sensei has drawn); Now it's different, First whip a person and then drink a drink. I do not like it, forgive me.
That will forever be one of my favroite frames, I think it's the most intimate they've been since 'FOTHL' - sets a good tone between them.
Sister if u watch arabic and turkish mafia series like i do u'll know this is really nothing if we compare it with those series and turkish serie they did even cut an enemy dick with a knife once while in arabic when it's not with the business matter u'll find them killing for the smallest thing he did threat a mafia dude's lover he burn him alive they hate their husbands they bomb their cars
Seems more that his men are doing the 'dirty' job while he is waiting for the possible answers, surely the beaten up person works for his enemies. With all due respect I see this 'natural' in a mafia or in a spy story.
Yeah, a truly interesting frame! ^^
Agree with you, Rommy. He did not get his power by giving out candy. Asami at war. Together with Fei makes it just that much better. Now all is needed is Mik.
I can perfectly understand why you don't like the scene, LF, it makes for uncomfortable reading. But personally, I am glad sensei put that in. It shows the very real and very dark side of what Asami is actually dealing with and what he is involved in. Murder and killing is very much part of his business and his dealings. The stakes have never been higher for Asami. He has been driven out of his home (penthouse), his clubs and business offices (presumably, since no longer safe) and has been driven deep into the underground. And let's not forget: The men attacking the penthouse did so with the intention to kill him. So the time for playing nice with his enemies is now over. It's eat or be eaten, kill or be killed, perish or survive. That is why I'm very glad sensei put that scene in. Asami (and presumably Fei now as well, since Fei's organisation is being targeted as well) have everything to lose - their business, the people they care about (Akihito, Tao) and, ultimately, their lives.
I disagree with what you said later, that Asami has only killed so far moved by instinct. Maybe Sensei should have shown us the stark reality of who Asami is and what he does a bit sooner, the kind of work that is an integral part of Asami's world and business, rather than just give us the elegant guy in the three-piece suit in an office who never gets his hands dirty. So I'm glad she is doing it now to remind us, what Asami is capable of. And let's make no mistake: Asami has no problem with torture or with killing somebody, if he sees the need for it - and it won't make him lose any sleep at night.
When I speak instinctly I speak of the killing of Toh and of the spy that sends Akihito to the Russians. I'm not naive. I know who are Asami and Feilong. Two criminals. But I add that an image has a deeper force than any story or hypothesis. I deserve that Asami tortured and killed and raped; Is the head of the Yakuza. But seeing that man made me uncomfortable, just as I did not like the scene in NT. That is why many hate the first chapter of VF; One thing is to "say" that Asami uses sex to punish; One thing is to see how he initially treated Akihito. I do not want to criticize Sensei's work (the designs are wonderful) and I could just stop reading without venting into a forum. I just say I noticed a remarkable change of tone (though not content) that struck me. The tone of this chapter is different. Some may like others not, but you will all have to admit that something has changed. I add that even though a manga is fantasy, and only as such is to be interpreted (well distinguished from reality), there are some issues that I still disturb. A man sitting in a chair, covered with blood, alone, with low eyes, with his hands tied up, troubles me. Maybe a shootout with dead and injured (being very inflatable as a scene, no). Sorry.
You are perfectly anonymous. I do not know how to explain, but it's as if for the first time I saw who really is Asami, although his role is clear from 16 years !!!!
Ah, many gangsters show a sleek polished side to society, to hid their dirty bits...er... laundry, and often have legitimate businesses to launder money.
Feilong was the same. I'm a fan of Fei because I hit the HL scenes. Pictures. If I had read this: "Asami tried to protect Feilong from Yan's trap in all ways, coming to use kisses and personal physical contact, but he did not succeed. Fei went to his father and only greeted him the last time; Asami found him faint in the rain and brought him back to the hotel ... " probably would not hit me much. But seeing Kisses, Caresses, Fei's tears, pain, rainfall striking him, face expression, and gaze between them has created a remarkable impact that led me to "on the side" of Fei. It is a subjective way of perceiving everything. I know. Many, when they read HL, get bored and go over. But for me it was so.
LF, you know, I've read some of your posts from this board and I'll say this: while I understand that seeing Asami in this scene made you cringe, when you don't read a manga from beginning to end, certain things will inevitably shock you. I distinctly remember you saying you're only read PARTS of this manga. Even if it hasn't been shown before, it's been heavily hinted that Asami is no stranger to murder. This is his life. Hell, in Finder no Souen (the novel about Asami and Kuroda's past, which is canon, since Yamane-sensei supervised the writing of it) Asami kills the members of a gang in order to protect Kuroda. He stabs them and he breaks the neck of the leader. So you might want to get your facts straight before commenting on something. Also, Asami is not part of the Yakuza, much less the actual head of the organization.
Yes...keep in mind what was done to akihito by both asami and fei long. He was also raped and tortured.
Yeah, it is, and I tend to be more realistic about this type of stories.
The meaning of my speech is based on the different emotional impact that different codes (writing and images) have on me. It also seems obvious to me: novels, comics, fairy tales, films are different kind of communicative genres that have a very specific and distinct feature. It's not my idea, it's communication (literary and not). I use time to translate English and I can not afford great expenses. I arrange how I can. OK it's good.
That earlier post about Biblical Yaoi themed depravity gots' me thinkin'….
that there must be something wrong with me after all - because I found this chapter exceptionally sexy AF. I mean, there's just something about Asami and all those manly men sitting around watching someone getting interrogated bloody for information…….
And hell -! Fei Long slipping his phone into Asami's pocket like that???????? Oh. Freaking. Boy! ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ Anyone else?
Basically a very, very good new chapter, I have very high hopes for this Arc now
(๑•ㅂ•)و✧ the more blood and gore, and sadistic Asami the better!