this chapter made me uncomfortable

dazaiperi April 10, 2025 11:18 pm

I’ll never understand the “make the slave the bad guy” trope. She literally purchased him. She expected for him to be like a dog and love her wholly and unconditionally after she bought him. I don’t feel bad for her or feel like she’s a “girl boss” like they’re trying to portray her as at all in this situation.

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    alltheyaoiboyz April 10, 2025 11:24 pm

    I get why youd say that but penelope is acting like that here cuz despite everything eclis is the one who brought yvonne back to the main house. And that was not only ruined her plans for survival(her ultimate goal) but was seen as a huge betrayal
    So id say valid crash out for her here

    SJ02 April 10, 2025 11:45 pm

    Fair point. Maybe I would’ve agreed if he used her to save his own people instead of straight up slaughtering them. I feel like out of all things that was the worst thing he did and I can’t have any sympathy for him more cause of that than Penelope

    Agikneto April 11, 2025 12:44 am

    Penelope slander will NOT be tolerated. Are we just gonna forget that eclis is obsessed with her, not because he loves her but because he wants her all to himself? I mean the reason why he brought yvonne back was so penelope would become isolated and forced to only depend on eclis. Yes he was cute at the start but penelope literally gave him everything and I know she didn’t do it out of good will but that doesn’t make her deed invalid

    blue April 11, 2025 1:13 am

    yeah i could do without this part of the story tbh

    dazaiperi April 11, 2025 5:46 am
    Penelope slander will NOT be tolerated. Are we just gonna forget that eclis is obsessed with her, not because he loves her but because he wants her all to himself? I mean the reason why he brought yvonne back w... Agikneto

    And she bought a slave to keep all to herself. He brought yvonne back so she would be forced to depend on him, and she bought him so he would be forced to depend on him. And her “giving him everything” to manipulate him after purchasing him is not a good deed. Nothing she does for a slave she bought is goodwill except freeing them.

    dazaiperi April 11, 2025 5:58 am
    Fair point. Maybe I would’ve agreed if he used her to save his own people instead of straight up slaughtering them. I feel like out of all things that was the worst thing he did and I can’t have any sympath... SJ02

    Him killing his people was bad. However, I’m talking specifically about his past actions towards Penelope in the conflict that they are talking about in this chapter. I don’t like his character, but seeing slave characters in this and other stories not only get unsavory plot points like the one you mentioned but get used as an antagonist to a more “noble” character leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

    SJ02 April 11, 2025 10:17 am
    Him killing his people was bad. However, I’m talking specifically about his past actions towards Penelope in the conflict that they are talking about in this chapter. I don’t like his character, but seeing ... dazaiperi

    Yeah, as I’ve said, I do see your point. Though the only reason Penelope did those things was cause of the game, and I do think she cared about him to a certain extent and tried to give him a better life. I don’t think he would have more luck with anyone else, but honestly, I hate stories wherever slavery is legal. Also, yeah, I could understand him if he hated her and tried to use her and betray her due to his disdain for her and the empire. Cause of what he did to his people, and that he acts like and believes to “love” Penelope and the action he takes towards her cause of that, yeah I can’t sympathize that much with him because of that. It makes me question him as a person overall, like if the situation was different (he wasn’t a slave) and it was any other woman would he also have such an abusive “love” towards her? I think usually those behaviors come from values.

    SJ02 April 11, 2025 10:28 am
    Him killing his people was bad. However, I’m talking specifically about his past actions towards Penelope in the conflict that they are talking about in this chapter. I don’t like his character, but seeing ... dazaiperi

    I don’t think Penelope is a good person, but at least the things she did she did purely out of survival (and also never directly harmed anyone, she just helped people to gain their favors). I mean, she’s also basically a slave to the game and she had to gain a favor with Eclis to not die. If Eclis just used Penelope as he wanted to originally then fair enough, but everything he does is due to a twisted obsession and selfish desires, like actually believes it’s “love”. I can’t really see their reasons in the equal light.

    Agikneto April 11, 2025 7:35 pm
    I don’t think Penelope is a good person, but at least the things she did she did purely out of survival (and also never directly harmed anyone, she just helped people to gain their favors). I mean, she’s al... SJ02

    Exactly bruh my girl just trying to live like let’s not forget this is a game in the highest difficulty mode in which she needs to gain their attention or else she’ll die no one in this story is innocent and neither is she.

    SJ02 April 11, 2025 9:39 pm
    Exactly bruh my girl just trying to live like let’s not forget this is a game in the highest difficulty mode in which she needs to gain their attention or else she’ll die no one in this story is innocent a... Agikneto

    Personally, I LOVE morally grey characters. She’s one of my favorite MC’s, wish more stories had FLs as cold as her. I’m so tired of them being goody-two-shoes who forgive people for the most messed up things ever. The only thing I wish was different is for her to stay single. Tbh, I don’t love Callisto, I don’t hate him either but I think an ending with her going back to her own world would be the best one. In these kind of stories even if MC wants to go back she always stay for the ML, ugh. I know “Kill the Villainess” is different but I can’t get myself into it

    Sara April 18, 2025 10:24 pm
    I don’t think Penelope is a good person, but at least the things she did she did purely out of survival (and also never directly harmed anyone, she just helped people to gain their favors). I mean, she’s al... SJ02

    Period. The chances of her being slain by eclis was there too, she fully believed that if she didn't get eclis on her side yvonne will and end up dead by his hands. Yes, her actions aren't noble but it was survival. Not feeling bad for her is just...meh, she was also forced to be there and had to survive in equally harsh conditions mentally. Funny how it's so easy for cute male characters to receive sympathy even if they're murderer and twisted maniacs but the girl who never intended to harm anyone, didn't kill anyone, isn't twisted can't be given sympathy.

    SJ02 April 19, 2025 6:35 am
    Period. The chances of her being slain by eclis was there too, she fully believed that if she didn't get eclis on her side yvonne will and end up dead by his hands. Yes, her actions aren't noble but it was surv... Sara

    Yeah. Penelope HATED having to suck up to all of them, I mean so much she genuinely tried dying to escape. She’s pretty much a slave to a game. No one says she’s an angel, she’s morally grey and cold. That’s why I like her so much tho

    Sara April 21, 2025 9:06 am
    Yeah. Penelope HATED having to suck up to all of them, I mean so much she genuinely tried dying to escape. She’s pretty much a slave to a game. No one says she’s an angel, she’s morally grey and cold. Tha... SJ02

    Fr. I hope people will have an ounce of sympathy for penelope as much as they have for eclis

    SJ02 April 21, 2025 10:45 am
    Fr. I hope people will have an ounce of sympathy for penelope as much as they have for eclis Sara

    Dunno, already had some weirdo Eclis defender block me cause she assumed I consider, and I quote, “Penelope to be a perfect victim who can do no wrong” Even when in the og comment I quite literally said I would be fine with Eclis betraying her if it was for his own freedom and revenge of his people

    Sara April 21, 2025 1:54 pm
    Dunno, already had some weirdo Eclis defender block me cause she assumed I consider, and I quote, “Penelope to be a perfect victim who can do no wrong” Even when in the og comment I quite literally said I ... SJ02

    Im telling you people only care about male characters. Better to not engage with them tbh they did you a favor

    SJ02 April 21, 2025 5:26 pm
    Im telling you people only care about male characters. Better to not engage with them tbh they did you a favor Sara

    Tbh I don’t really like any male characters here. I wish Penelope run away alone or went back to her world. Especially I would want her to go back so bad tho I know it won’t happen