I just read the author's note and im shocked at the fact that the author was genuinely try...

who said the author was imagining having sex w their own parents...

Read again what i wrote.. I didn't say author is imagining doing it with their own parents, i meant how can he execute a plotline where the main character wants to do it with their parents .. and some part of it needs author's own imagination, i meant how can he/she cope with that thought.. but he/she wanted to make it a pure incest story so its not a shock either..

People enjoy writing horrible main characters, because it really is an experiment. Looking into the eyes of again different individuals is quite literally the point of psychology.

I feel like that's a really...small minded mindset? Think about horror movies and slpsychological thrillers, the reason they're so successful and well done is because they dare to cross into taboos and make people uncomfortable, since that's what the genre calls for and that kind of thing is just interesting to explore in fiction since it's very obviously not okay in real life. To me it's no less shocking that anyone can cope with it anymore than when they're imagining a horrible death scene or tragedy, and knowing it's pure fiction makes it really easy to detach and assess.

Small minded mindset just because i said incest is sick?? Wtf!! You are trying to normalize incest now? Why are you trying to compare genre with human nature? Thriller and horror are genres and being involved in incest is a completely different thing.. how is it comparable to having sex with your mom or dad?? The story tried to portray the psychological side too with a bit of thriller, but they tried to do it through incest.. the means they used is the thing thats concerning.. and just because its fiction are you going to justify rape? Wwow... You people have no human conscience.. making people uncomfortable is not the same thing as making them disgusted.. i have read more psychological thriller than you can even dream of but thats not the point here... im not uncomfortable but rather irked by the thought that they are okay with sex with parents concept.. stop trying to normalize weird fetishes

The characters are not as horrible as per se ....and i don't have a problem with them being horrible....they used the psychological element well but that doesn't mean incest is okay or a normal thing.. its the author's note that threw me off

if you think you are good with having sex with your parents then you need your head checked, thats outright disgusting and disturbing even if its fiction..

LOL yeah no you're going way off the deep end, I'm literally saying it's taboo and obviously disgusting irl and you're trying to tell me I'm normalizing it and okay with it? Okay, buddy.
One of the most popular horror movies is Hereditary where a little girl gets her head smashed off, and somehow incest is worse than horror or psychological thrillers where someone always gets deeply traumatized through murder or rape or some other deeply disturbing thing to you? So much for human conscience...
I think you're too immature for the genre, genuinely.

LOL WHAT!? When did i say murder or rape is better than incest? Wtf are you on about? Feels like im talking to a crack head... Incest is not a genre, are you dumb? None of it is okay, murder rape or incest NONE.. but murder has been a natural thriller concept way before anything else, its a natural thing for aggressive human instinct and nobody romanticize murder, whereas incest is morally wrong, its not only a taboo but also a fetish and its being romanticized here in this story.. nobody should be okay with incest, whether its fiction or not.. im put off by author's note only for the fact that they are okay with incest as a concept that too with real parents thats it.. you are the one who immaturely mixing up shits and twisting my words.. you didn't even understand what I said.. lol you are just yapping.. and what's with that hereditary movie example XD LOL. thats the worst movie you have seen? XD lol pathetic.. thats one of the softcore horror movies i have ever watched in my life.. the head bashing thing wasn't even a murder it was an accident... Omg It feels like im talking with a 2years old who fetishizes their parents... Grow up

Actually people have romantized murderers. Literally look at scream. Your argument is that incest is morally wrong, so murder is then not wrong? Another thing. It is quite literally normal for people to have fantasies about morally bad things?? Majority don't commit the crime. But again psychological romance doesn't mean romanticizing. Define romanticizing.
Fantasies doesn't mean someone wants to commit that crime.
The author enjoys writing psychological topics in a deeper sense. They don't have to visualize fucking their own parents?!

Your argument is riddled with contradictions. You are trying to equate incest and murder as if they are morally equivalent simply because both are "bad" in society's eyes. That’s a false equivalence. The moral wrongness of an act is context-dependent. Incest can involve deep psychological trauma and exploitation, while murder can occur under vastly different circumstances (self-defense, war, etc.). You can’t just throw them into the same category without proper nuance.
Let’s take Scream for example as you said. Just because people romanticize the killers in slasher films doesn't mean anyone actually supports murder. It’s a cultural fascination with fear and violence, not an acceptance of it.
Fantasies don’t equal reality, but when an author continuously centers these warped themes in their work, it says something about what they’re prioritizing. You don’t need to write about these taboo topics to explore psychological complexity. There’s no deeper insight into human nature to be found by this.
The author is easily painting a picture where the reader might feel sympathy or connection to the characters involved, which is a form of romanticizing. Romanticizing something means portraying it in a way that makes it seem appealing, attractive, or worthy of admiration. They wanted to make real incest as they said in the author's note which is the only thing I didn't take well because the relationship between the characters are clearly being accepted as "normal" in a romantic way, like they trauma bonded or something. Incest is inherently a taboo that carries deep emotional, psychological, and societal harm. Being okay with this concept to the point making it a normal acceptable thing is more disturbing than anything. it completely distorts the reality of the harm it causes. Here you're confusing *romanticizing* (which is actively glorifying and idealizing something) with simply *exploring* these themes in a narrative. There’s a huge difference and a fine line between exploring psychological depth and glorifying twisted, damaging behaviors like incest. Incest need not be a concept matter to make something psychologically deep. Writing about morally wrong acts doesn't make you a deep thinker — it makes you someone using shock value as a crutch.

Now let’s talk about your argument: "people have fantasies about morally bad things, so it's normal." That's a pathetic justification. Sure, people have dark fantasies, but it doesn’t mean you should glorify those fantasies or put them on a pedestal in your writing. Writing about them in a “romanticized” or “psychological” light doesn't suddenly absolve you of the fact that you're still giving these actions more weight than they deserve. You’re romanticizing incest by making them central to the narrative in ways that make them seem interesting, compelling, or even desirable. And people like you accepted it as a normal thing thats why you are here arguing about it trying to make it justifiable, trying to compare the wrongness of it and portray it as a good type of wrong... Which is downright disgusting..

Once again i do not have any problem with the story, or anything else, its just hard to digest that the author supports incest in a bigger context.

cant believe im the weird one now just because i said author wanting to create real father son incest is disturbing.. lol
and someone thinks horror movies are successful cuz ppl explore taboos in it but cant name a single successful horror movie that explored this kinda taboo, another one saying psychology is all about writing horrible immoral characters... wtf even.. this site really needs cleansing and age restrictions just so fetish induced teens dont come here to justify these disturbing contents....
the story isnt even that bad but these readers are way worse... im actually glad the author made this, shows how rotten people can raise their head from anywhere...
what has this world come to !!!

Never compared the two just said the two are bad. Murder is no self defense. the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another that I'd the definition of murder. Your fantasy argument can be used for the same thing about incest. Can I go and romantize Ted Bundy? You're completely throwing the authors words out of proportion. The author never romantized it. But there is no way to tell if something is romantized if we're looking at different pov not the authors pov. Another thing. If incest isn't needed why do you care if they add it or not? Since it doesn't change the story. Actually psychology recommends writing down your fantasies. Especially women with rape fantasies. That would be around 62% of women.
You're argument is filled with bad premises that can easily be refuted by saying it's you're subjective morals and or you just misunderstanding the author and insulting people

You're quite embarrassing, I refuse to believe you're over the age of 18, because if you seriously support censorship. You're going down a slippery path and to say that we are in the bad Is crazy then to try and bring up psychology which supports all these actions in fiction is another type of crazy. If we want to talk about reality. Justify why we should call women disgusting for rape fantasies. Let's say 62% of women have rape fantasies. Psychology recommends reading and writing about it because again fantasy and no one is getting hurt. The same with all other fantasy in which an individual isn't getting hurt. I recommend you look into paraphilias

erotophonophilia look that up as well as lust murder. Paraphilia for murder

Did you just say women have rape fantasies?? What??? Omg i can't.... what kinda sick environment did you grow up in?
You are outright disgusting at this point..
There's no point arguing with a sick twisted individual.. no therapy can cure you... I have never heard any sane women say they have rape fantasies, you are either a sick rotten man or you have serious issues... And paraphilia has nothing to do with incest unless you get off on these types of shits...
Just because you have messy childhood mommy daddy issues with fantasies doesn't mean you get to normalize it here ... I don't support unsolicited immoral shits , what does it have anything to do with censorship? You are dragging one topic to another, stick to one, which you most certainly can't ..
You couldn't refute back any of the things o said but instead went on to showcase your sickening fantasies.. get off my comment section because you are disgusting me at this point.. tbh there's no point talking to people with fetishizing issues.. go take a look at the comment section you must be the only sick in the head that actually thinks all of these are okay... Go out instead of spending time in darkweb and por*sites or something because this is revolting af

You did compare stop trying to divert it.. stick to the shits you are saying.. and self defence is a defence to a murder... You said "people romanticize killers in the movie all the time" then in the next comment you are saying "can i go and romanticize ted Bundy?" , 2 contradicting statement... Ted Bundy is a real life serial killer, nobody would ever romanticize his actions in their wildest dreams.. and you are the one who said people romanticize serial killers, not me.. write your comments while you are sober or something because I can't keep fact checking for you...
My morals aren't subjective its universally objective.. maybe come out of your por*hub cocoon and talk to normal people for a change and then you will find out your disgusting fantasies are for mentally disturbed people.. its no way normalised in any version, any era or anywhere in the world... Incest is a taboo and it always will be.. its a fact that the author wanted to write real father son incest they already mentioned it, im not distorting it or misunderstanding their statement... Insulting the author? Lol right... My comment was a complete construction criticism... You are the one dumping your fetish fantasies here...

Nope, I corrected you on the term that no body romantizes murder. Again you're either missing my point or strawman my argument. In your words you said simping for killers is alright because of your reasoning. I said that can I simp for Ted Bundy with that same reasoning. You're not fact checking anything. You are using strawmans. you're morals aren't the same as everyone else or else there wouldn't be murder. Again you attack people for fantasies when psychology says that paraphilias are normal. You don't know what a paraphilia is in any sense. You are quite literally misunderstanding their story and just pulling that they want to sleep with their parents which is a false equivalence. You are, I can bring up several comments you made. You're comment wasn't constructive. It was basically a review not criticism

Are you actually being fr? Do you know what a fantasy is? I might just start having to fact check you. No one controls fantasy. This was a psychological study . https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19085605/

Actually therapy cannot and never will cure psychological problems because they are simply there. Psychology is to improve the person's mental state without them going insane and that is why psychology rather comforts the individual rather than attacks them. I argue with facts not feelings. I hope you know that. Should I also say majority of what you said was just a fallacy grounded by your opinions. Open your eyes. I cannot believe you're seriously over the age of 18 and think that everyone shares the same mind as you do