I think so too!! Everyone keeps telling how they hate jiwook but its not some little thing being left alone. He regretted it that siwon had almost died and thats my reason why he isnt as bad as everyone thinks :D
Me: *spits to the ground to remove the bad taste*
Pff.. XD
You need to reread every thing that Jiwook said/did to SiWon AFTER he got out of the coma (well, it's Taemin but he doesn't know that). Now, tell me, does he REALLY give a shit about his brother?
Imo jiwook doesn't have any redeeming qualities. He hasn't expressed remorse or regret even once, and what he said on the phone about almost losing his brother doesn't seem very genuine either. He has just been strutting around insulting siwon and going so far as wishing he had died while he was at it. None of this makes me believe jiwook feels any regrets at all.
Wow guys you seriously have no understanding :D
Well everyone has own opinion
Exactly everyone has their own opinions, and if they don't agree with yours then it doesn't mean they don't have understanding. Cheers.
Write me a list here of all the good things Jiwook has done that show he's a good person or a non-evil person. Every good thing. Go on. I'll wait.
Did i hit a nerve :D sorry
Amen :)
No, I'm seriously asking for evidence, because everything we see is a guy who is envious, mean-spirited, bullying, selfish, self-absorbed, cruel-speaking, self-pitying and I see not one shred of decent humanity past early-childhood. I want to know where people justify "he's not bad/evil", because behavior= personality/character.
Im not saying he is not bad. He is bad but he is not as bad is he could be. Even though it is just fiction i really ubderstand sadness for being left alone and being not understanded.
Does compassion make me look like bad person
Definition of compassion: a feeling of deep sympathy and sorrow for another who is stricken by misfortune, accompanied by a strong desire to alleviate the suffering.
In this story, the ones stricken by misfortune are Taemin and SiWon (and in childhood, SiWoon). They had some serious misfortune rain on them.
What Jiwook suffers he brought on himself. Show me a scene where it's not his own interpretation to his detriment. Show me where he's beaten, disowned, told he's a crap son, told he's useless, etc. Envy and jealousy and a sense of inferiority within himself created his need to destroy his brother. He chose that. It wasn't any way comparable to the "misfortune' we see in the childhood of SiWoon (brutal abuse) or Taemin (brutal abuse and abandonment and poverty) or the horrors SiWon underwent.
In other words, compassion does not make you look bad. What I don't get is where is the evidence that Jiwook is not bad. Show me actions of his that prove he has good in him. Show me the ACTIONS of goodness. Because some words on a phone that could be manipulative mean squat. Where has he done a kindness for anyone other than sucking up to popular or alpha people (SiWoon, Joohoon). Those are selfish considerations. Where is the kindness? Where has he reached out to a hurting person the way SiWon and Taemin and even SiWoon (to a lesser degree) have?
Compassion should not be blind to truth. It can seek to alleviate suffering, but it should not blind itself to corruption.
Im sorry i dont know english words so specifically.
At first i didnt pity him but now its a bit different. He hasnt done anything good or things that would make you accept him but even so i see person with lot of potential which you see as total failure and loser.
I dont need goodness to feel pity, i saw man who was sad and anxious so i felt sad too. Im kind of simple but thats my idea of pity.
Even if they were manipulating words they still gave me reason to feel compassion, wierd isnt it.
I cannot choose which person im feeling pity for. You speak with great words and you have your explanation on those words but for me its only a feeling which i cannot control. That makes me such a psycho for feeling pity on person who everyone else hates.
Heh now im taking this too seriously xd but well its fun this way too ^^
And I have a feeling of disgust at him that I can't ignore or control, because he's evil.
Thats one feeling too, well i guess im the mad one here ^^
guys, let's calm down ~ we just need to respect each other opinion and wait for sensei to tell us the truth ^^
I'm sorry if my comment gone wrong m(_ _)m
No it was fine :) i dont want to fight either
Nooo, your comment didn't go wrong. It's a discussion. :D
Its nice right? ^^
To be able to discuss with different opinions
How about johoon is the one who acts too extreme to bully siwon?? And jiwook was regreting that he almost lost siwon then dissapear from johoon side? Just guessing (⊙…⊙ )